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  1. #31
    Ausfish Platinum Member
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    Re: 4 Stroke Engine Service

    Good luck with tomorrow fingers crossed for you
    cheers Scott
    happy days ahead summer is coming

  2. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by captain rednut View Post
    I think you need to come and pay some of my over heads every week to realize that the $110 Per hour is not so Sweet.
    Its $110/hr per BAY, I had to book 2 weeks in advance, its nearly May - so hardly peak time for boating.. There are 6 bays.

    Then there are the parts... / Consumables...


    How do the "average" wage earners afford to live - I'm really curious! Teachers and Hair dressers and Retail guys wont be able afford to fart soon.

    I didn't want to sound arrogant - but since you set the tone => I'd be happy to swap overheads with you for a week Captain Rednut!

    My rooms alone are $18500 month, My AVANT insurance is a couple of hundred grand a year, a wages bill of that again for a staff of 2.5 FTE, then lets talk about professional equipment cost and lease / Stock / Theatre Booking fees each day at each hospital... And I was almost 40 before I even QUALIFIED to do my job.... non - stop, from leaving school...

    My brother in law is a Plumber (owns his small business) and we all use the same accountant.. We have nothing to hide.. His bottom line is a LOT healthier than mine..

    I don't care - I absolutely LOVE my job - and it is a great honour - but I am sorry - I maintain, that $110/hr, for a tradie labour rate is ridiculous.

    I wont even start about my hours Vs his hours - its a joke!

    Its my opinion - you are entitled to yours.

    But the offer is there - happy to swap overheads with you!

  3. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsmfun View Post
    Good luck with tomorrow fingers crossed for you
    cheers Scott
    Thanks Scott mate

    Gosh a can of worms lol.

    Got your email :-P

  4. #34
    Ausfish Bronze Member
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    Re: 4 Stroke Engine Service

    Let the market decide. If it is too dear find someone cheaper. The cheapest is not necessary the best and the dearest doesn't mean the standard is any better. An outboard is a big investment. Don't skimp on the maintainance.
    If you think it is too dear do it yourself.

  5. #35

    Re: 4 Stroke Engine Service

    How are ya bud??
    Got mine done the other day from accropolis now $765.Hourly rate $120,thats gota get ya a few goats or what??

    Cheers chris.

  6. #36
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    Re: 4 Stroke Engine Service

    very rough numbers

    $120 per hour charged to customer
    $35 + Paid to mechanic as wages
    $10.91 gst to gov
    $ Gov will take pay roll tax as well depending on numbers $5 per hour been a while since i had to calculate it

    then the share of rent insurance specific engine brand training which the outlet pays for
    holidays public holidays sick days all to be covered by income
    Would leave about $50 per hour profit which the gov taxes as well

    $40 profit from $120 charged is not that flash a return for the investment and risk involved

  7. #37

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    Follow up:

    Service at Ipswich Lifestyle Centre as per booked - Called to pick up as "boat ready"

    When I got there - it wasn't - they had not done a part of the job - so I waited nearly an hour... and the manager wanted to add ANOTHER 30 mins of labour onto the job... while I had to waste my time waiting for an incomplete job... ..

    The two mechanics at ILC are nice blokes - in fact Ben has bent over backwards to help me in the past - and hence I feel a sense of loyalty as he genuinely a nice man.

    But at $797.85 for a 100hr service.. - I wont be back.. I told them I thought it was over the top for a 100hr service. I also told them I was quoted $500 - 600 over the phone, and of course they wanted the name of the person... When I said the person who booked the boat in... and you serviced at 140HP Suzuki 100hr that day that was $600 - things went silent..

    I do have to declare of the $797.85 there were three items NOT included in a standard service - these were 2 x stainless steel rivets, a $5 bearing for the jockey wheel handle and a plastic fishing rod holder invoiced at $5.60 - but the other $785 odd dollars... Whoa!

    I will give your recommendation a whirl next time Scott - thanks again!

    I was impressed with the detailed report the motor spits out though - of all sorts of detail from fuel consumption, distances, revs, fault alarms etc etc.. - very cool.

    Ok I'm off to bed - to go to work for the w'end to pay for the service lol.

    Brad.

  8. #38
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    Mate I'm dropping my 175hp of to John tomorrow I'll let you know the cost 200 hour service. After my 20 hour service with lifestyle centre I had to find some ware that I felt I got my money's worth hence bayside Suzuki
    happy days ahead summer is coming

  9. #39

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    I feel ya pain mate. Been paying nearly $600 per service on a 115 4 stroke. Just out of warranty now so will have a crack at it myself.
    I am in the communications/ data cabling industry. If I charged at $110 per hr I would never win a job. Just as many costs as other trades. I also don't believe their would be too many mechanics on$35 hr

  10. #40
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    Re: 4 Stroke Engine Service

    Here is the way I look at it,
    service for my Suzuki DF90 @50hrs $970 from holt marine. yes that's right $970!!!
    guess what? I did the next two years servicing with a use of approx. 300hours use.
    Then I asked around and took it to my local Suzuki dealer, 45 min drive and got a service, cost mid $500. they were happy to answer all my questions and now sell me the parts I need to do it myself, cost to me is under $200 and done in an hour. I know its done properly but don't have a diagnostic report.

    I had some pretty dodgy mechanics service my cars, having sump plugs done finger tight, spanners falling out from under my bonnet, new brakes so tight that I cant drive out of the mechanics car park ect.

    peace of mind is a beautiful thing 30nm offshore

  11. #41

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    One thing to quote a big number - it costs what it costs and the punter can decide whether he wants to pay or not but it's a totally different thing to pull that sort of caper. A job should be done for the quoted price unless it was made perfectly clear prior to starting that the final price could not be fixed and those terms agreed upon or extra work outside the quoted scope is completed. Even then a good business should advise the client prior to proceeding with additional works. Pretty poor form and no wonder you are voting with your feet.

  12. #42

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    Costs me about $600 to get my 60 hp 4 st merc serviced every I00 hours. Seems a bit exy, but they are all good blokes and do a good job with it. I guess peace of mind is worth something.

  13. #43

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    You hear it all the time rent, insurance, etc,etc,etc. I don't understand why more aren't mobile, surely it would work out for both the owner and the mechanic. As for the computer readouts I don't give a shit for them as I've got a car that's throwing up codes for parts that don't fix the problem. Give me a mechanic who can diagnose a problem and not blindly listen to a computer. Most can do a service well, but some are bloody useless at diagnosing a fault.
    Agree with Lethal bigtime, as I've been caught out with similar antics and can't stress enough that TRUST is so important.

  14. #44
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    Re: 4 Stroke Engine Service

    Quote Originally Posted by One more drop View Post
    I feel ya pain mate. Been paying nearly $600 per service on a 115 4 stroke. Just out of warranty now so will have a crack at it myself.
    I am in the communications/ data cabling industry. If I charged at $110 per hr I would never win a job. Just as many costs as other trades. I also don't believe their would be too many mechanics on$35 hr
    $35 a hour is $1400 per tax for a 40 hour week bit over 1k after tax
    I dont know any tradesman on less then that
    i thought i t may just be sydney prices but ive just moved rural and all the local electricians charge $120 min for house work.

    but unless the op puts a receipt up showing what he got for hi smoney its all just pissing in the wind and meaningless to anyone.
    comes across like a Darren hinch sensationalist piece with no substance

    ive seen the result of incomplete services by mobile guys, internal anodes not being checked cleaned or replaced and destroyed motors etc

    The guy i used in sydney would check wheel bearings and lights with every service as he refused to responsible for a boat driving out his drivway and causing issues
    which is fair enough i guess

  15. #45
    Ausfish Bronze Member
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    Re: 4 Stroke Engine Service

    I don't know about Marine Mechanics but I work in the service department of a car dealership and our techs (all factory trained in the brand) make at absolute MOST $24.50 an hour. And that's for a leading hand. Most qualified techs are on $21-$22 an hour. Mechanics are the second lowest paid of all trades behind hairdressers. Doesn't stop us billing out at $145.00 an hour though. I have no real point I suppose, other than maybe the assumptions about mechanic wages MAY be a little high. But like I said, I can't really speak to Marine mechanic wages....

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