I don't think that last post helps anyone, most of it is rubbish.....who would replace a motor under warranty if the gear case had "blown"? who would replace a motor with a "Yammie" because he has a trim problem?? I would say some of that has some element of truth, but the rest has been embelished over time and beers! (in my opinion)
Noelm- typical ####en keyboard hero ###### you are. How's about you offer him an answer to his question instead of slagging me off.
You dont know me from a bar of soap, so don't talk shit and discredit my comments.
The bloke asked for real life evidence on ETECS, and thats what I gave him. If you dont beleive it then fine thats your business.
The local ETEC dealer here is very good with Evinrude warranty stuff, how he does it I dont know, but the results are the results.
this unfortunately will always create the type of discussion that particular favouritism will shine through !
over the years I have seen major problems with all brands, while people will say " Im not biased against any brand", you can bet your bottom dollar they are ! fact !
ive not had to much experience with e tec, but have a few friends running them, last year at Eden I towed a mates carribean with an etec on the back that completely shat itself, out on the shelf. That's my only first hand experience with them, but, have seen and towed back many other brands as well.
the advice to get it fully checked out with all print outs, is good advice and advice I would give anyone buying any motor. There does appear to be a few issues being reported on the etec's, mainly on forums such as this, and mainly here say ! perhaps there are issues with them, but I believe that most of the issues are from those that say " I am not bias on any brands" but a mate of a mate !
resale does seem to be effected with etec's, which does probably reflect a confidence issue from the public, but if you get it checked out as previously recommended, then its purely your gamble, as it is with any purchase new or used of any out board brand.
note, the etec I towed back from the shelf at eden last year was 6 months out of warranty, the dealer covered all costs and it was completely repaired, I don't remember the actual cause, but, their does seem to be a fairly good response from the dealer network to rectify some of the issues they appear to be having.
Would I personally buy an Etec........ in all truth, probably not, but Im in no position to bag them either...
bonneville
you are right, I don't know you from a bar of soap, just the same as you don't know me, why that matters is beyond me, but anyway, I don't particularly care, I am not, and did not "slag" off at anyone, and never intended to, simply stated that in my opinion, it would be very unlikely (might as well make that improbable) that a motor would be swapped because of a gearbox issue, or someone would replace a motor with another brand because they had a trim problem, that's all, nothing more, nothing lessOriginally Posted by NothinSuss
From a towing perspective,
we tow neither one more than the other, they all fail, they all have problems from time to time, same as cars.
Me personally, I would happily buy one, I have the 115 DI from Evinrude which came out just prior to the ETEC and it has never missed a beat.
Just get a good pre purchase inspection done and then enjoy your boating. If a problem happens, its just unlucky, that's all.
Resale they suck.Tried to trade mine but no one was interested. I have serviced mine annually ( even before 300 hrs up) with a renowned Johnson/ETEC mechanic. Just had three year service done. No issues yet. Found oil use was high in the first year but use less the 4 litres a year for an average of 30 hrs use a year. If I had my time again I would buy a different brand purely on resale because of a lot of knobs who shit can ETEC but have no idea. In reality it has been a solid motor which is required to take me 40-50km of shore. Doesn't matter what motor I own I always make sure I have coast guard membership as all brands have a bad day occasionally. Do your due diligence and get a report from an ETEC mechanic.
Three of my mates have them (115, 175, 200ho) none of them have had any issues. They seem to use a little more fuel than a comparable 4stroke but nothing terrible. They go pretty hard too.
My 2008 115HP ETEC has now done 680 hours without missing a beat.
I have heard disaster stories from ALL brands - but no idea on the rate of failure of any brand.
Hi Lembo, My mate has a very old 6,5m shark cat its fitted with twin motors around the 2011 model,115hp etecs , I have done four or five trips off Noosa with him up to 130 ks up along DI and the motors run well, he sits on 42ks an hour at around 4000 rpm and gets a k to the litre, The only trouble he has is the Noosa bar is very shallow and the motors suck up the sand and once the impellors get a bit worn it starts to run a little hotter, a lot more steam comes out the back around the motors, so he gets in new impellers replaced and good as new, Craig
My opinion is why take the risk, this whole etec crap has been going on for ages, just put it in the search bar. Ive been reading bad stories on them for ages, not saying other brands dont have issues, but you dont see nearly as many bad reports on yam, suz, hon, merc. Yeah sure they might be alright in some cases but why take the risk, outboards arent cheap, so evreyone stop friging around with this topic and just get a SUZUKI!
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I have 550 hours on my 90 never missed a beat have 2 mates with 75's never missed a beat. Great motor's plenty of power and great on fuel.
Only been towed in twice both times the boats had yammies hang off the back. Things go wrong with all brands I would happily have any of the major brands hanging off the back of my Haines.
Local Pro Fisherman I know runs Etec 115's and does a few thousand hours every year. If they were that bad I doubt he would keep putting new ones on.....
I've had a 2006 etec 90hp, 2012 etec 150hp, 2010 big block 200HO and now a 2011 etec 225hp. This was over the last 5 years. I have never had a problem with any of them. Starts first go everytime and quiet for a 2 stroke. They are not as fuel efficient as four strokes in the mid range but we are talking 15-20% difference. And it makes it back in bottom and wot. I think allot of it comes down to how well ur look after and service u engines. Mate I reckon if it's a good price and the engines check out go for it.
thanks guys
seems like people either really don't like them or think there pretty good.not much in between.
i understand any outboard can have dramas. the boat im looking at is an awesome hull but has the etecs, im sure i would be happy with the smoothness, economy, performance of them. i think if my boat sells and i get the etec one i will just use them and if they blow up, they blow up. it is twins so i will still get home.
i may get 5 years drama free or 5 weeks haha. its priced so well it just about leaves enough money in the kitty to repower anyway.
The days of the 2 stroke outboard are done and dusted with the majority of the manufactures dropping there range. IMO Evenrude are flogging a dead horse
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