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    Cutting rope from prop

    Hey guy quick question, I'm a spear fisher just casual keeps me calm have no real idea about yachting. So someone has given my number to maritime rescue and I have received afew phone calls from guys in massive yachts stuck in lake macquaire that ask me to dive under the boat and cut the line and make sure it's still n working order.

    Now since I have never been into boats when they ask me what my rate is I have no idea. Any advice how much do companies charge to get your boat out of the water and cut away all the melted line or do it underwater? I have no idea. The last 2 guys I have been in million dollar yachts.

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    I would look a it this way. Rather than thinking about how rich the boat owner is, think about what your time is worth, because that is the point.

    Very few people charge different clients different fees based on how rich they think the client is. And frankly, if you do that, they will likely find someone else and you will then not get anything. They didnt get rich by being stupid or allowing themselves to be ripped off, did they?

    If you were a tradie called out, what would you charge?

    For example, recently i had the need for an electrician. He charged just under $100 per hour for 8 hours work, spread over 3 visits. Plus parts. I had it as a booked in job, had it been a call-out, I would also have had a callout fee of $100 on top of that.

    Now that is pretty much the going rate for a qualified and licenced electrician who has serious responsibilities and obligations for safety. And who carried appropriate liability insurance.

    Maybe thre is some guidance in that for you to think about.

    Callout fee: What fixed costs do you have (air fills? Knives?). How long foes it take you to get ready to go out, and clean up and put gear away after? That tells you the callout fee you might charge, and gives you a good rationale if they query you.

    Hourly rate: decide the rate per hour you will charge and when the clock starts and stops - when you depart from the wharf and return? Or .......? Will you have one all in rate or 2 rates, one for travelling time and one for actual time you spend in the water. But do try to keep it simple.

    Work out what you think is fair, and run it past the rescue guys and ask their opinion - they may even know what others charge for the same service.
    Note to self: Don't argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience....

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    Yea I understand. I want to be fair but sitting here now I told him $100, I had to leave work for 2 1/2 hours drive there and do 'the job' and I have no idea what people charge for that kind of thing. Thinking about what you said bout the leco, my work charges me as a fitter at $90 in the workshop and like $130 on site with the call out fee but you don't need a trade to swim under someone's boat if you know what I mean. Like saying well my call out fee is $150 swimming against the tide to your boat and fighting with the tide is 100 an hour with a 150 danger fee... So today that will be $450. Does that even sound fare?

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    No it would be like

    hello my callout fee is $150 my. Time on site or under the boat is $50 every 15or20 min up to you that figure factors in you danger money my minimum on site cost is $100

    so now your minimum cost is $250 which is far considering you have to travel to them straight away or when they need you. If I have a emergency job we tend to charge more for the customer to have someone ASAP com paired to a customer that has booked a appointment

    you also need to consider the danger of being under a boat with rope ? Could not end well that's how you justify the price
    cheers scott
    happy days ahead summer is coming

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delforce1990 View Post
    but you don't need a trade to swim under someone's boat if you know what I mean. Like saying well my call out fee is $150 swimming against the tide to your boat and fighting with the tide is 100 an hour with a 150 danger fee... So today that will be $450. Does that even sound fare?
    as soon as someone pays you money to do a job you are covered by work safe rules. Yes, you probably do need a trade to swim under someone's boat and charge them money. I'd be keeping it low key and cash only or you'll be attracting the wrong sorts of attention.

    i don't necessarily agree with the rules, but I think you'll find that there are quite a few covering your sideline.
    nil carborundum illegitimi

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    Yea an hour is a long arse time to cut a rope. Who would do this kind of thing anyway? Guys working at the mariner/shipwrights?

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    Depends on the jobsite. I am currently working out of Onslow. To mobilise the site compliant dive spread, the costs apparently exceed $50 000.00 thanks to health and safety. Absolute minimum of 4 blokes, two shipping containers inc a deco chamber and a couple of cylinder banks as well - to cut a rope off a prop. The guys that usually do this sort of stuff are qualified professional divers. Without the qualification and a strict adherance to safety protocols things like work cover and other insurances would be null and void I would expect and the risks associated would fall back to the individual.

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    Hahaha that's crazy I have a knife pliers and a snorkel flippers and weight belt.... Im only talking about like a 45 foot yacht though, or same deal minimum people trained divers? 50k seems very extreme that's all

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    A deco chamber for a 2M dive? How long are they under, 4 years?

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    Site safety requirements. Yeah totally agree - the sh*t is out of control. It is cheaper to steam a vessel offsite and get a non inducted commercial team - still 4 blokes, to attend. Team usually consists of dive master, a diver, a stand by diver in case the diver manages to get in the shite and a bloke to handle the umbilical as most commercial divers use a comms system with video that is streamed back to a pc for record keeping now. Add to this possibly a master and deckie if the divers are not ticketed to drive the boat to get to the dive site. Add the Pilbara rate and the fact that site inductions are a week long exercise in Perth and there's your 50g.

    In your case though simply work out your real time spent to do the job - from phone call to completed at home with feet up beer in hand after washing your gear and put an hourly rate that you are comfortable with on your time. Also recommend keeping it cash.

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    must stay cash or the suits will get more than your catch (lol) my wife is a accountant see it happen heaps
    happy days ahead summer is coming

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