Rust Prevention

[CruiserV8100]

Anyone ever used tackle guard to clean there chassis and under carriage or just a quick spray before a beach run. If it keeps corrosion of rods and reels any reason why it l couldnt be applied to 4wds as a tempory ease of clean thing.

[bluefin59]

I'm one who uses electronic protection , some say rubbish some say wouldn't be without it , but a good sprinkler run under the car for 20 minutes can't hurt either.. Matt

[CruiserV8100]

I have couplertec but like to over do things. Had a can of tackle guard laying around and did my rods again today and had the idea to clean the under carriage and chassis and it came up like new. Just thought id ask if there was any pros n cons in using this product.

[Lucky_Phill]

Tackle guard sounds OK.

The vejicles on Fraser Islands Kingfisher Bay resort use a Lanotec / Tectyl combination..

I use Tectyl 506 in the spray cam and never had a rust issue, even on my boat trailer.

Lanotec is good and " creeps " but doesn't really dry, so sand will stick to it, hence the use of the tectyl to assist in the drying.

I have heard good things about electronic rust prevention.

I suppose it all comes down to economics and how long you want to keep the vehicle.

A really really good wash out with water goes a long way to help. I do an underbody wash TWICE after beach work. Bit chilli in winter, but hey !!


LP

[Triple]

Expensive way to do it I would of thought...

[ozscott]

Xtroll rust conqueror uv. Much greater specific gravity than water so flows everywhere. Dries hard and completely seals. Then sprinkler plus a hose into every orifice. My discovery 2 has been used on the beach since 2002 and not a hint of corrosion. I started x troll recently but I'm sold. My boat trailer that gets dunked is mild steel and dura gal, not hot dipped, and xtroll RC UV with xtroll galv paint over the top...no hint of corrosion. My brother installs ERPS and likes it...he also sells Xtroll.

Cheets


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[TheRealAndy]

electronic rust prevention is snake oil. Does not work, cant work, you cant cheat pyhsics i'm sorry.

As phill said, tectyl 506 is the go.

[bluefin59]

electronic rust prevention is snake oil. Does not work, cant work, you cant cheat pyhsics i'm sorry.

As phill said, tectyl 506 is the go.

Where is your study into this ? There is plenty to say it does work and plenty to say it doesn't but to outright state that it's rubbish isn't true . Plenty of big and small companies are running them standard on mining and fishing equipment including catapillar machinery who make their own version so such a wide sweeping statement is not correct . There is also plenty of studies where it hasn't worked but that's usually when not correctly installed , I am not particularly convinced 100% one way or the other but have it in my car due to some one doing me a deal I couldn't refuse . But stating it just doesn't work is putting a lot of knowledge that has been studied out the window on YOUR say so .. Matt

[CruiserV8100]

This is the same as the Plastic vs Bait debate. Its what's proven to work for us not anyone else. I'm after longevity out of my vehicle as the old digger I bought it of looked after it. I was looking at Tackle Guard as a pre trip application on top of what I already apply or install. I looked at tackle guard as a product that leaves a thin layer that doesn't get sticky and is easily removed after a trip. Its not a permanent application more of a bit of extra protection like waxing your 4wd.

[ozscott]

electronic rust prevention is snake oil. Does not work, cant work, you cant cheat pyhsics i'm sorry.

As phill said, tectyl 506 is the go.

Stradbroke Island's Consolidated Rutile use ERPS for their sand mining 4wd's. There are other examples. I have never used it. Xtroll and Tectyl are quite similar. I prefer Xtroll but each to their own.

Cheers

[TheRealAndy]

Where is your study into this ? There is plenty to say it does work and plenty to say it doesn't but to outright state that it's rubbish isn't true . Plenty of big and small companies are running them standard on mining and fishing equipment including catapillar machinery who make their own version so such a wide sweeping statement is not correct . There is also plenty of studies where it hasn't worked but that's usually when not correctly installed , I am not particularly convinced 100% one way or the other but have it in my car due to some one doing me a deal I couldn't refuse . But stating it just doesn't work is putting a lot of knowledge that has been studied out the window on YOUR say so .. Matt

I hear this debate all the time. IF you think it works, its up to you to prove it. There is plenty of research from credible corrosion scientist that show that it does not work, yet there is no non subjective evidence that it does work. Furthermore, the creators of these systems cannot show any proof, and when you quiz them (as I have multiple times) they dont respond. IF you understand the physics of corrosion, you know that its not possible for these systems to work. Fortunately for me, I have have studied corrosion science under a very well regarded expert at uni, so I do understand the physics.

I always relate this back to the aviation industry. Given I fly planes, I have a vested interest in corrosion science. If electronics rust prevention actually worked, you would find it on every commercial aircraft. The fact is the aviation industry relies on a proven and scientifically proven method of corrosion prevention, and that is industrial coatings. Simple, remove oxygen from the equation and you remove corrosion.

[ozscott]

Andy - removal of oxygen from the equation is something that appeals to me - hence productions listed above which create an excellent seal keeping oxygen away from the metal.

Are planes not mostly alloy though? I know they can get a type of corrosion, but these are painted or annodized items and not dunked in salt water.

Cheers

[TheRealAndy]

Andy - removal of oxygen from the equation is something that appeals to me - hence productions listed above which create an excellent seal keeping oxygen away from the metal.

Are planes not mostly alloy though? I know they can get a type of corrosion, but these are painted or annodized items and not dunked in salt water.

Cheers

The planes I fly are alloy and steel. They are painted and tend to use zinc chromate on unpainted surfaces. If flying coastal areas they are usually treated with stuff like tectyl 506 or similar (rocol aerospec, boeshield, etc) or thin film treatments like corrosion-x or acf-50. Galvanic corrosion is handled using duralac or polycast or similar jointing compounds or the part is cadmium plated.

There is actually some good tools in the aviation industry for applying stuff like tectyl. Prior to the mid 80's a lot of aircraft had no corrosion protection, so now there is a lot of spray gear and foggers that allow planes to be treated without pulling them apart.

[ozscott]

Cheers mate. Bringing it back to the real topic I use Corrision X spray on my reel bearings.

Cheers

[Horse]

electronic rust prevention is snake oil. Does not work, cant work, you cant cheat pyhsics i'm sorry.

As phill said, tectyl 506 is the go.

Andy is on the money. one of the biggest cons ever. Here is what RACQ say about it
"Anyone considering the purchase of such a device would be well advised to seek the opinion of their vehicle’s manufacturer or distributor (not a dealer) about the possible implications.
RACQ has not seen the results of any properly conducted, scientifically valid tests that support the effectiveness of such devices and therefore can provide no further information."
Very diplomatic I think