And YOU think I have a LOW iq......Originally Posted by solemandownunder
I have been SUSS about all this, since the "SO CALLED" police said, "let it sink"...jus sayin'....and sayin' it LOUD
And YOU think I have a LOW iq......I have been SUSS about all this, since the "SO CALLED" police said, "let it sink"...jus sayin'....and sayin' it LOUD
As it has been "officially" announced by others that both the Police & Insurance declared "Let it sink", (although, not "officially" confirmed on this forum by said authorities) .....then I would see NO reason why not.
If I were you, I would contact the necessary parties to confirm ALL of the above information that has been stated in this thread....JUST to cover ur you know what.
Cheers, Ray.
When have police and insurance companys ever come on here to "officially" confirm anything?
I wasn't gunna...but what the heck.....I don't THINK...I KNOW
Hint: Go to Bunnings...buy some timber, build a bridge, then jus slide right OVER that sucker.
Cheers, Ray.
rEaLlY.... DiD yOu NoT ReAd GoOd In ScHOoL and have to put every second word in capitals as you spelt it out?I wasn't gunna...but what the heck.....I don't THINK...I KNOW
Hint: Go to Bunnings...buy some timber, build a bridge, then jus slide right OVER that sucker.
Cheers, Ray.
Now what the hell are you on about so called police? where do i borrow a water police boat from to pose as a cop so i can go back at a later date to salvage a boat in the middle of no where with no markers... at the bottom of the ocean i might add.. while your spelling out your words maybe you should write them on a peice of paper first so you don't sound so silly
I see someone has actually CAUGHT some decent Cobia....cool hey
As I said low iq baby.....and PLEASE read ALL of my post before replying...mite jus be that damn iq thang, but I am sure you will develop in time
"If I were you, I would contact the necessary parties to confirm ALL of the above information that has been stated in this thread....JUST to cover ur you know what."
What part of THAT did you NOT understand ?
All OF it.I see someone has actually CAUGHT some decent Cobia....cool hey
As I said low iq baby.....and PLEASE read ALL of my post before replying...mite jus be that damn iq thang, but I am sure you will develop in time
"If I were you, I would contact the necessary parties to confirm ALL of the above information that has been stated in this thread....JUST to cover ur you know what."
What part of THAT did you NOT understand ?
You really think that bothers me do you? That someone caught a few cobia?I see someone has actually CAUGHT some decent Cobia....cool hey
I feel sorry for you ray, i hope you can get some help for the problems you have....
From what I've read , Unless it has been officially declared as "abandoned" by the owner/s, insurers and the captain who was in charge at the time of the incident you cannot touch it or it's contents.
edit - old post from here.
Type of salvage is "Open form salvage", Pure salvage or "contract salvage".
Open form salvage is very complicated and the most well know open form salvage agreements are LLoyds Open Form and the US Open Form.
Regardless of the type of salvage, all cargo, personal effects, vessel fitments etc all remain the property of the owner. No salvage laws give right of ownership of any of this to the salvage operator.
The only rights under salvage are per the agreements. For contract salvage, a normal contract will provide a fixed fee such as a day rate for the salvage vessel, crane barges, etc, etc to conduct its operations, and perhaps a bonus if they do succeed. If they fail to succeed in the salvage attempt under contract salvage operations, they still get paid for their work. If they recover small portions of property, it remains the property of the owner.
Under Open Form Salvage there may, or may not be an actual agreement reached either in writing or verbally over the radio prior to the salvage beginning. The open form contition of salvage is accepted where the vessel is in peril of being lost (Vessel - not crew) and the master accepts a towage line or other physical assistance from the salvage operator. The salvage operator will then declare at the first convenience available to him, which Open form he is providing the assistance under.
A crew rescue does not come under salvage. Salvage refers to recovery of property.
All vessels at sea are required to provide rescue to persons in peril within their capabilities.
Under Open Form salvage, there is a specific clause that says "No Cure - No Pay". This means that the attempted salvage must be successful, and the salvage operator must present the salvaged vessel in some manner to the owner where by the owner recovers the "hull of the vessel". This is called "the Cure".
If the vessel was not at risk of being lost (permanently) at the time operations began, and the salvage operator did not subsequently present the vessel hull to the owner, the Open Form salvage did not take place and there is no payment of any sort to the salvage operator. Vessels aground will not normally come under an open form salvage because by this time the ships owners have been able to engage a contract salvage operator. A vessel aground also does not satisfy the requirement of the vessel to be in imminent danger of being lost - it isn't going anywhere.
Payment in respect of an open form salvage is calculated by percentage value of the hull only. Property / cargo do not usually enter into the equation. The "Open" form is just that, there are no rules set in stone to determine the cash settlement. The arbitrator takes into account the hull value, sometimes the cargo, and also the amount of risk, difficulty and expense endured by the salvage operator in performing the salvage. Part of the Open form agreement also says that both parties are bound by the first and only decision of the arbitrator.
Regarding property from the vessel: There are specific terms for this. "Jetsam" is property / cargo etc that was thrown into the sea by the crew of a stricken vessel in an attempt to keep it afloat. "Floatsam" is property / cargo that floated off the vessel while it was floundering. "Ligan" is property remaining on the vessel. These very clearly remain the property of the owner under all circumstances.
If a salvage operator uses the LLoyds Open Form agreement another catch clause is that all claims for settlement must be settled by mandatory third party arbitration (not in the courts) and this arbitration must take place in London, England.
Open form salvage is an incentive for a master to risk his vessel to save the property of another vessel and be adequately compensated on the basis that the entire stricken vessel would otherwise have been permanently lost.
Salvage of sunken vessels would normally come under contract salvage. Even a sunken vessel remains the property of the owner until officially abandoned by the owner to the state.
Regards
Mick"
Kids who Hunt and Fish, Don't Deal and Steal.
Oh GOD...save me now...even ur good self stated "every second word in capitals"?????
and then THIS, akin to the mentality of "suckerfish" and his mate "mudeye"...
"rEaLlY.... DiD yOu NoT ReAd GoOd In ScHOoL"
SHOW me in ANY post on this forum where I have EVER been THAT dyslexic to type such dribble ????
Just WHAT are you guys SMOKIN' ?...I WANT some, cos I MUST be missing SOMETHING here
I DOUBT THERE is a drug known to mankind that can MAKE us understand WHAT YOU Are on About....
It's written in dribble so maybe you could understand your first thread. Clearly you coul t even see the first sentence was a blatant pay out of your over use of capitals.
Do you know when capitals should be used? Did they have capitals back in your day?
More than happy to give you an English lesson.
You ask what we smoke yet your the only one that can't understand us however the whole community can't understand you? Think about it, take as much time as you need.
I can see what you guys mean
I just tried to work out what he was on about
Done my head in
Is there a limit on Capitals ?Am I overUSING them
Do you NOT understand the use of INFLECTIONS
Ok I must be dumb but what are you deflecting
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