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Thread: Looking to upgrade the donks -advice needed please

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    Looking to upgrade the donks -advice needed please

    Took possession of a Glacier Bay cat recently and I'm going through the exercise of getting the rig exactly how I want her... Part of this is upgrading her heart from 2005 4 stroke 115hp suzukis to the new 140hp 4 stroke suzi's with lean burn.

    I've never really had to swap motors before and I've no idea where's best to list em or if its easier to just trade them in.

    Whats your experience?

    Cheers in advance for the info...

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    Re: Looking to upgrade the donks -advice needed please

    probably a bit of a two way bet, you may get a better deal without trade, but then, you have to mess about selling two motors, and then splitting the controls and stuff like that, I reckon shop around for a good deal and just trade them, even though selling them would probably be easy, but remember they are more than likely XL shafts, possible counter rotation?

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    Re: Looking to upgrade the donks -advice needed please

    I think if it was me I'd be trying to sell them before you change over that way you may find a buyer looking to upgrade from old 2 strokes on a cat. Would have to be quite a few out there still running 2 strokes that can not justify new 4 strokes but would jump at a couple of 4 strokes at the right price. Being to test the motors before buying would be a big bonus.

    Mark
    No such thing as a fat alcoholic, just fat piss pots...

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    Re: Looking to upgrade the donks -advice needed please

    ok so i guess leave on my cat would be the best option- especially to let prospective owners test them as well... Motors are not counter rotating so essentially would appeal to any boat owners. I'm also aiming to keep the existing controls, binnacles and steering but merely sell just the motors -does this seems wise?

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    Re: Looking to upgrade the donks -advice needed please

    Ohh, and besides this forum, where are the common places to sell just motors?

    EBAY
    gumtree
    Seabreeze
    Ausfish

    all spring to mind

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    Re: Looking to upgrade the donks -advice needed please

    Might be a tough market to sell them without controls and stuff.

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    Re: Looking to upgrade the donks -advice needed please

    I would be interested to know what price you get quoted for 2 new 140s,if you wouldnt mind pm me when you get a price,cheers mark

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    Re: Looking to upgrade the donks -advice needed please

    I advertised my old motors had a few enquirers ended up trading them in for what i could get and fitted new motors was the best way to go for me now they are some one else s headache and i am wrapped in new motors.

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    Re: Looking to upgrade the donks -advice needed please

    You won't have any trouble selling the 4 strokes on ebay or gumtree. I've been watching the market for a while and they don't last long. Not having controls shouldn't be an problem so long as your price reflects that. I just sold my 115 4 stroke in two hours through a local forum.

    Hilta Have a look on boatpoint for a good deal on 140's. There's a place in Melb advertising them for 13 something and being 2013 mdls should be the lean burn job's.

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    Re: Looking to upgrade the donks -advice needed please

    Update the controls and everything so you have full warranty on the instal so you know all the wiring is routed correctly and then you will be trouble free. The df150 is a much sweeter motor but unsure the HP required and also pricing. Were you only going with zuk as you were thinking of a easier changeover as if you decide to change all controls it opens it up to all brands?. Do you know of a sistership who has run the zuk 140 and did it perform Ok and have decent economy for what you want ?

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    Re: Looking to upgrade the donks -advice needed please

    the boat currently has 115's.. Reason i;'m going to the 140hp is to give the boat better cruising speed and economy at lower rev's - I will prop it to suit my needs.

    I''m sticking with suzukis as it is a straight swap and the only motor i would ever consider is a yamaha but the weight difference is the clinching factor. There do not seem to be any glacier bay isle runner 2270's with 140hps fitted that i know of here so i cannot extract figures. I do know that the boat could benefit from a bit more hp and because the price and the weight is marginal between 115 and 140 it seems like a logical upgrade. I do not plan on driving flat chat but aim to bring the cruise speed up from 36km/h at 4100 to possibly 40km/h at 4100 with the new motors.

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    Re: Looking to upgrade the donks -advice needed please

    There was a GB forum in the USA and they had links to tests and data for a range of motors on different models. Might be worth the search to see if what you are thinking is possible and the right combination.

    Just a quick search and saw this one but not sure what model boat you have.

    http://www.suzukimarine.com/~/media/...%20DF140s.ashx

    http://www.boatingmag.com/glacier-ba...everybody-wins

    So many more in the usa so you should be able to find out exactly what to expect from diff motor combos.

    Used to see quite a lot with permatrims on em advertised but not sure if it was more efficient lower speed plane ?

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    Re: Looking to upgrade the donks -advice needed please

    Already have the permatrims fitted.. I've being trying to track down a 2270 isle runner with stats on 140hp's but have come up with nudda.

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    Re: Looking to upgrade the donks -advice needed please

    They changed the numbers ( same hull- just marketing) so maybe ask on the GB sites as they will know which one is which and depending on what hardtop etc it may get you the numbers.

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    Re: Looking to upgrade the donks -advice needed please

    cheers- btw which melbourne mob has the 140's for 13 xxx? i searched boat point but couldnt find them..

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