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    300hp Outboard Current Market Costs - .....

    G'day guys,

    On the market have the $$ but Im getting quotes back for a 300hp outboard showing ridiculous $$$...

    I must have a visible sign on my head stating " Im a dumba$$ please take my money" when walking in to discuss $$ for an outboard.

    So far,

    North/Central QLD Pricing:
    300hp Etec - $28k fitted. (Best dealer/Mechanic in town...... But just not a fan of Evinrude which is a shame)
    300hp Suzi - $34,450 fitted
    300hp Verado - $37k fitted
    300hp Yamaha - $36k fitted..

    Anyone know any dealers in Oz with some good sales on atm??

    Quotes from the US:
    300hp Suzuki - $21,000 delivered to my door - $22.5k fitted
    300hp Yamaha - $22.5k delivered to my door - $24k fitted
    300hp Verado - $19.9k delivered to my door - $21k fitted
    300hp etec - Havent checked yet, and probably wont..


    I would like to buy local, I would like to drop my boat off and leave with a tested, tuned and warranted outboard.. Can somebody point me in the direction of a dealer who will give me $13k worth of customer service and warranty to buy local??

    Im preferable to suzuki atm. Wheres the good deals at?

    Cheers


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    Cheapest Yamaha in QlD......Marine Tune down the Gold Coast.

    They we're going to sell me mine for cost plus 5%. No shit. They were happy to make their coin from the dealer rebate and the fit up plus the 5%. I heard some bad reports about their fit ups so I stayed clear instead getting it at Broadwater Boating Services for the best VALUE price I could find out of every dealer in SEQ. 32 fitted for mine with all the fruit including the premium 5inch LCD display.

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    Bayside Suzuki Marine in Cleveland, talk to Jon. Knows what he is talking about and won't feed you bullsh!t.

    Cheers
    "Mystique" Haines Signature 580BR with 175 of Mr Suzuki's finest ponies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argle View Post
    Bayside Suzuki Marine in Cleveland, talk to Jon. Knows what he is talking about and won't feed you bullsh!t.

    Cheers
    Just had a good chat with Jon. You're not wrong mate, good price, straight to the point.

    Thanks for the referral.


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    http://www.##############.com.au/yam.../f300betx.html

    300 yam $28,650

    Price includes:
    Outboard
    Water test
    Free prop exchange

    Yamaha DNA anti-theft
    • Price does not include:
    • Yamaha SDS stainless steel prop
    • Single binnacle control box fly by wire
    • Separate key switch
    • 3x Yamaha Top-of-range multi function digital gauges(Tacho and Speedo, Fuel management, Battery level, Trip, Trim, Hours, Warnings, etc)
    • Battery, Steering, Fuel filter, Fuel tank
    • Fitting(dependent on boat configuration - as a guide $500 to $1000 for a single outboard of this size)
    Price is advertised on Bris Yamaha website along with all there other prices. Big outboard like that im sure you could negotiate somewhat

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    Tim those plus pluses would kill the advertised price

    300HP engines are a hard task at the moment, non of them are fuel efficient engines.

    If you import just pray you never need that 13k support.

    hard to chose between the yamy and suzi, support would sway my decision if you need to make a choice.
    Garry

    Retired Honda Master Tech

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    A 250 Honda would do the job nicely, wouldn't it Garry?
    fruit salad is the new Bacon

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    I had twin 250 Suzies on my last cat and had to replace them a month or so out of warranty with one engine seizing and another with saltwater in the oil as well.

    So I replaced them with two new 250 Suzies at a cost of 50k with no help from Suzuki, they washed there hands of my first set of engines because they were out of warranty by only a month although it was obvious that the damage had been done prior to warranty ending.

    But when one of the new engines cracked a head at 100 hrs in the first year (same issue as the ones replaced) and it took 8 mths for them to rebuild it (not replace it) I thought never again. Suzkies warranty in my opinion isn't worth the paper its written on.

    Yamaha on the other hand have been brilliant. I've had 6 yammies and when i cracked a head on a 60 four stroke after 200 hrs they still replaced the head and it only took 3 weeks.

    I have to give Yammy a wrap with there warranty.

    No way would I buy an engine overseas. Shop around and get a good one from a reputable supplier that will go to bat for you if you have any issues.

    Keith

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    Re: 300hp Outboard Current Market Costs - .....

    Thanks fellas.

    It is hard to choose, I've never had an outboard from new so it's a pretty big investment for me, and the piece of mind with regards to warranty is a big one. This is why I intend to pay the extra 13k for the warranty and local service.

    With regards to the zuks, Keith sorry to hear about that mate, that's really off putting. I suppose I will do more research as to the yammy vs zuks argument..

    Suppose the question to ask is, what's dealers in smaller towns stance if you don't repower through them??


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    i know personally someone who is commercial and is on his second set of DF300A suzukis in 24months and has had nothing but problems after buying his business he has had to fork out close to $90,000 just on Suzuki 300HP engines shitting themselves, I wouldnt rule out the Verado your boat looks american and the Yanks love the Verados thats for sure just ring around for good quotes, where are you located?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldie View Post
    i know personally someone who is commercial and is on his second set of DF300A suzukis in 24months and has had nothing but problems after buying his business he has had to fork out close to $90,000 just on Suzuki 300HP engines shitting themselves, I wouldnt rule out the Verado your boat looks american and the Yanks love the Verados thats for sure just ring around for good quotes, where are you located?
    Located in Gladstone mate. Recently the yamaha dealer went bust, and the Suzuki dealer is also the merc dealer who also quoted the verado.

    Not sure why I haven't really went down the verado path, but what's a big selling point to me is the bigger diameter prop on the Suzuki.

    Boat is a 2601 sea swirl Striper. I've had a 225 yammy, underpowered, 250hp ram, underpowered.

    Transom is rated to 400hp. Was keen on twins but from factory the strikers have a different transom height for singles vs twins, so not sure how the spacing and all that would go.

    Twin 175s would be nice but yeah, lots to think about.


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    Give Troy a call at Brisbane Marine. Mercury large horsepower repower specialists.
    Know you will be impressed by pricing, service and the quality of fit up.
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    One of my work associates purchased a 250hp Yammy four stroke a couple years ago for their 19' Workboat.

    Although located closer to a couple other Yammy dealers, Yatala Yamaha was chosen as they appeared to be more capable of set up and fine tuning issues. It was just as well.
    At that time, nobody seemed to know to optimise the performance of such a large engine onto a fairly small boat.

    I personally saw almost 20 props that were tested.
    There were the usual rpm type considerations, then porpoising, it all went on for weeks.
    The application requires 2 different props - one for towing, the other for speeding past City Cats.
    But my point is that the overall purpose of the engine is to turn the prop.

    I would choose the supplier that can help fine tune your installation.

    Not being nasty, buy what percentage of boats are running far less than optimal props, engine height, or are poorly balanced etc? Scarey.....

    edit - by the way the installation was improved beyond their expectation.
    Yamaha honoured a warranty claim
    And after 2 years they have upgraded to a 300hp from the same supplier.
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    Re: 300hp Outboard Current Market Costs - .....

    Quote Originally Posted by FatBuoy View Post
    One of my work associates purchased a 250hp Yammy four stroke a couple years ago for their 19' Workboat.

    Although located closer to a couple other Yammy dealers, Yatala Yamaha was chosen as they appeared to be more capable of set up and fine tuning issues. It was just as well.
    At that time, nobody seemed to know to optimise the performance of such a large engine onto a fairly small boat.

    I personally saw almost 20 props that were tested.
    There were the usual rpm type considerations, then porpoising, it all went on for weeks.
    The application requires 2 different props - one for towing, the other for speeding past City Cats.
    But my point is that the overall purpose of the engine is to turn the prop.

    I would choose the supplier that can help fine tune your installation.

    Not being nasty, buy what percentage of boats are running far less than optimal props, engine height, or are poorly balanced etc? Scarey.....
    Yeah mate, I hear ya. When I first purchased the Striper, after months of fine tuning i had a well handled setup with a 225hp yammy pushing a 26ft boat at 28knts cruise and 37kts flat chat. This was after 3 props and 3 motor height adjustments. When I got it too speed was 31knts and it wouldn't plane below 4000rpm..

    This is the crap I want done for me, so I can hop in the boat and have 5 trouble and adjustment free years of hitting the reefs.

    It's taken a long time and a lot of budgeting, but the boss has cleared this for approval!! And let me tell you this, that is not easy when you have your 4th child on the way haha


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    I would go the Yamaha, they have a pretty big network in OZ and that's always a good thing. The new 300 yam is an excellent motor, it has size on it's side, and a lot cubes. I know a few folks that own them and love them. I see a stack of suzuki outboards around too , guys in my club have them etc, but I have heard the larger motors have had some probs. I think the service side of things is pretty important and should be considered.

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