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  1. #16

    Re: Deep Drop Advice Needed

    Thanks noelm and oceanranger, i've already made the call to go electric or stay in close, bugger the winding! I'm thinking concrete sinkers formed inside PVC, 2,4 and 6 kgs, Set a wire eye into them. Does anyone use breakaways? I'm going cut down a couple 24 and 37 kgs rods as a start point. Got a bit of ex longline gear about to make some heavy duty rigs.

    Any tips on where to go looking off goldy / tweed

    Scott

  2. #17

    Re: Deep Drop Advice Needed

    I used to use break away sinkers but found it more trouble than it was worth, for a start you need a pile of weights that you could be losing every drop, and they can get broken off when you don't want them to, remember, you need to be fishing ON the bottom, not near it! And some of the better spots can be quite rough (well down here anyway) snags are common, no snags, no good fish!
    Last edited by Noelm; 18-06-2013 at 09:05 AM. Reason: spelling

  3. #18

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    The closest I get to breakaway sinkers is at about 60 to 80lb mono, that way it breaks on a snag, but rarely with a fish. At 40lb or less you will nearly always lose it to a fish as well as snags.

    finding braid... google and ebay as always are your friends. hunting good braid at good prices is a bit like hunting for a new reef...an adventure.

    I find that buying braid is like buying a good red wine... pay $50 for a bottle and its likely to be good. Anybody can do that. Easy. The challenge is to pay $5 and get a good one.

    Sure go to your local tackle shop and pay $300 per 1000m. I promise you will be on their VIP christmas card list.

    24 kg rods.... they have a great bend and you really get an appreciation of what they look like just before they BREAK.

    PHIL

  4. #19

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    I reckon if some enterprising dude could make an Alvey deck winch motorised it would be a gem, simple, with next to nothing to break, and would work a treat I think, I have an old one at home, might give it a try, only problem I guess is how to mount it in the boat.

  5. #20

    Re: Deep Drop Advice Needed

    Quote Originally Posted by Out-Station View Post
    Thanks noelm and oceanranger, i've already made the call to go electric or stay in close, bugger the winding! I'm thinking concrete sinkers formed inside PVC, 2,4 and 6 kgs, Set a wire eye into them. Does anyone use breakaways? I'm going cut down a couple 24 and 37 kgs rods as a start point. Got a bit of ex longline gear about to make some heavy duty rigs.

    Any tips on where to go looking off goldy / tweed

    Scott
    The specific density of concrete is 2400g/1000ml, so that 2.4kg sinker will only weigh 1.4kg under water, so you need to make them pretty big, which defeats the purpose of a fast sinking sinker.

    Reo or lead is the way to go.


    TM

  6. #21

    Re: Deep Drop Advice Needed

    TM, yep they will be big, just didn't want to waste lead, but agree the sink rate will be affected and they may dart of in weird directions. Other thing I found out the back is some inch and a half solid drill stem, that will be the ducks I recon.

    Scott

  7. #22

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    I cut up old trailer axle. It made great sinkers. Unfortunately i ran out.

  8. #23

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    TM is correct.
    When I was commercially droplining the deepwater I experimented with concrete weights.
    The deeper the weight went the lighter they got.
    A 10 litre bucket with a small tide running was flat hitting the bottom.

  9. #24

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    Hey TM have you got one of these lately
    hapuka 35 kg
    Bass Groper 30kg
    Blue eye 28kg

    phil

    z hapuka IMG_8898.jpg2 fish.jpgZphoto BE.jpg

  10. #25

    Re: Deep Drop Advice Needed

    Quote Originally Posted by Oceanranger24 View Post
    Hey TM have you got one of these lately
    hapuka 35 kg
    Bass Groper 30kg
    Blue eye 28kg
    phil
    Did you get out last weekend Phil?
    Cheers

    Trev

  11. #26

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    Sure did. Left the river at midnight in 25 knots anticipating it would drop by morning. Took just under 4 hours to get out. tried to anchor and wasted 2 half hours. Did 2 drifts for naught. Moved 15km. Tried again. 9am by this time and 10 knots. Caught fishies. Left shelf at2pm

  12. #27

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    Hi outstation.
    If i had a preference i would choose an Alvey reef king well set up anyday

    The catch rate and enjoymwnt far outweighs the electric
    I have drilled oyt the base and added a 64kg cutoff rod for some spring

    The electric is great for the quick retrieve but is an anticlimax if a fishisattached

    I bet TM feels hollow and unfullfilled having xaught his 20+ kg fish with help.

    Bit of a girl effort really.
    No wonder he needed help from his 4 yr old!

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