Is this pot legal?

[kingcray]

my dad was given 2 of these pots by a local pro crabber. He reckons they are the best pots he had ever used and are completely legal,,, i just want to make sure before i use them.
The 900mm pot sits flat. It has double 10mm rings on the bottom, but the interesting part is the top ring is made of pvc and "floats up" as the pot hits the water opening the pot up. No supports whatsoever
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I think all that is ok, but the part im not sure about is that is has 6 entrances.
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Cant find any traps like this online, or anything on the fisheries sites about limits on amount of entrances. Cant wait to give them a crack later on in the week.
cheers
Dean

[Fallen angel]

You can have any amount of entrances mate and there is no difference to any other trawl mesh pot that I can see apart from not having staunchens. I would be carefull when using in the current mate that's all.....

[Vitamin Sea]

Interesting, I'm sure that they are legal, no problems there, I recon they would go well on short soaks, pretty easy access for the crabs to get in (and out I recon) quickly.

See what Rosco has to say.

Cheers

VS

[kingcray]

thanks for the reply, i remembered reading somewhere about legal length and height of entrances on crab pots but cant find anything on it.
the pot is very heavy with the double rings i would think it would still sit ok in a stiff current
cheers

[kingcray]

cheers vs yes thats my only concern, i think the sandies especially could find their way out.
who are you kidding rosco knows bugger all about crabs

[randell]

a few weird and wonderful shapes , looks like the same material.
randell

[kingcray]

randell i saw those for sale at tackleland at sandgate on the weekend.
they look like they would work well on redclaw / lobsters etc

[Vitamin Sea]

cheers vs yes thats my only concern, i think the sandies especially could find their way out.
who are you kidding rosco knows bugger all about crabs

Work them like dillys

Cheers

[rosco1974]

mate am pretty sure you can only have a max of 4 entrances to a pot in queensland..not 100%sure but prob 95%.give the fisheries a call mate and they wil tell ya for sure....in saying that just untie 2 of the enteries and put a string between the rings and tube to stop turtles and they will comply .either that or tie 2 enteries up ...and irecon they will catch real well mate....

[aus2045]

I was wondering what kind of pot you were talking about. I was certian it was illegal in Qld but has been de-criminalised in South Australia. Dont get caught growing it, lol.

[kingcray]

rosco this guy uses them all the time. Pros would have same rules as us wouldnt they?
Anyway it would be easy for me to close 2 entrances up.

maybe member fisheries qld can post their thoughts

[Fallen angel]

Hi Kingcray

I have had a look at pretty much all the legislation that I can dig up and not for the lack of trying I cannot find any mention of the following
1. Size restrictions
2. Number of funnels
3. Size of funnels

With regards to the size of funnels there was a lot of talk a number of years ago about this and it was pretty much to do about abandoned operhouse pots (square type large funnel) and it was to do with turtles getting caught. It does mention in the legislation as a point of consideration to keep in mind the size of the funnels with regards to turtles.

With the above point about size of funnels, if you have a 900mm pot with 6 funnels and looking at the size of the inner rope I think you will be fine....

And by the way, for all the years that I was a commercial crabber I can remember giving away pots but funnily enough they were never the best pots that I have ever used. They were usually pots that let's say gave me an advantage over the guy I was giving them too.



Happy crabbing anyway mate

My handy hint for you is to place a bit of plastic trellis across the bottom part of the funnel to close it up a bit

[kingcray]

just had a look it has same size entrance measurements as these guys
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only thing different is the rope is a bit looser so would be easier for crabs to escape

[Vitamin Sea]

mate am pretty sure you can only have a max of 4 entrances to a pot in queensland..not 100%sure but prob 95%.give the fisheries a call mate and they wil tell ya for sure....in saying that just untie 2 of the enteries and put a string between the rings and tube to stop turtles and they will comply .either that or tie 2 enteries up ...and irecon they will catch real well mate....

Don't think so Rosco

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Crab pots and dillies

In tidal waters, when fishing for blue swimmer crabs, mud crabs and spanner crabs, no more than four crab pots or dillies (or a combination of pots and dillies) may be used per person. Also a person must not possess more than four crab apparatus per person, on a boat on the water.
Crab pots and dillies must be marked by an identifying tag bearing the surname and address of the owner.
When not attached to a fixed object (for example tied to a tree above the high water mark), all crab apparatus must have a light coloured surface float attached. The float must not be less than 15 cm in any dimension and must be marked clearly with the owner's name.
When tied to a fixed object, a tag must also be attached to part of the rope that is above the high water mark. The tag must be marked clearly with the owner's name.
The use of inverted dilly apparatus (witches hats) was phased out from 2 April 2010.
When fishing for spanner crabs, the frame of a dilly must be made of solid steel of a thickness of at least 6 mm and no more than 1 m in each of its dimensions. If a collapsible trap is used it must be made of rigid material and have one or more collapsible sides.
Female or undersized crabs must be removed from the trap and returned to the water immediately.
Note: The age limit for the recreational use of crab apparatus has been removed.
Crab collapsible trap

In tidal waters, a collapsible trap must be made of rigid material with one or more collapsible sides.


This could be a problem

[rosco1974]

i have read somewhere that its 4 entries but cannot find it offhand,i'd be checking with fisheries b4 i used them,would save a nice little fine if caught with them onboard at the ramp if illegal...i am prob more like 99% sure this is the rule..would say if you can use them they would be shithouse for overnite soaks and would recommend pullin them around 20 minute soaks,