Narooma bar charter boat close call

[honda900]

that was close, plenty of "fully Loaded" underwear on that boat..


Regards
Honda..

[FisHard]

Very lucky!!!!!!

[WalrusLike]

Yeah I was very surprised how well the boat recovered from that roll.

I understood yachts self righting because of the big lumps called keels but I didn't expect such quick righting action from a powered hull. Very pleasing to see.

Obviously most hulls will right from a bit of a roll else we would all be swimming..... but that was right over and pressured by the wave and yet it still bobbed quickly back. Hope my hull would do the same....

[Fed]

Should have squared up to the second wave then backed off & taken it up the arse like a man.
Easy to say with 20/20 hindsight when looking at a video, perhaps he didn't feel comfortable aiming his boat at the wall, it could have been closer than it looks. Sometimes stuff just happens.

[Smithy]

Does anyone know the boat in question? It looks more like a semi displacement crab type boat rather than a full planing hull. In that case a lot of the comments are way off the money. The way you would handle things would be way different to how you would attack it in an outboard skid boat. I don't know how he should have attacked it if it was a 12knot sort of boat but I am guessing being a charter boat he has been out and back across it a thousand times. I guess if it was a 8knot sort of trawler or longliner or other sort of commercial vessel you would attack it different again. My current boat has the hull shape of a single screw crab boat just that I can do 20knots with it but for about 29 litres and hour. One of the other charter boats here is a 52'er that cruises at 10knots and he probably only burns the same fuel as me but on a 52'er with up to 18 customers so in the commercial game, it is all about "econmies of scale". The charter boat in the video is probably a good compromise for the bloke 95% of the time in normal conditions for his fuel burn V speed V carrying capacity short of anyone knowing the boat first hand.

[ranga7]

No expert but when the first wave went under him he should have been full power got behind it and rode it through. The first wave went through and he didn't start to power up to half way between the set and the second wave was on him before he new it. The first wave went through and it was like he was just sitting there. Saying that i and we don't know the full extent of wat was going on inside the boat at the time. Said it once and will say it again, it can happen to anyone, at any time with any level of experience. Glad everyone was alright.
Theres often posts on here about wat h.p should i get etc. Im a believer in the max for your hull, in situations like this you want all you can, its good just to have it there then not.

[WalrusLike]

If he had inboard motors then that low weight in the hull may have contributed to his boats excellent righting moment.

Probably my little boat with outboard would not be so good at self righting. It probably would, but maybe not as well as the video boat did.

Just musing out loud as it were....

[cormorant]

Different boats different strategies.

Smithy it is a 42 foot randall with a big cat in it. I think you will probably add to your comment that they are one of the most well known and seaworthy boats out there. You really don't want breaking waves behind you but at some point he had to slip inbetween breaking sets. In between sets there would have been a 10knot suck out off the back of that first wave so throttles probably were trying to get it moving but it looked like it stood still.

With me running bars in boats that do 8 -10 knots , have bloody big keels, sails and dodging surfers you get used to a knockdown to hold your line on the leads and it hurts and looks horrible . I think that people need to respect the way different semiplaning boats with keels handle.

I'm going to ask around but I don't know of a Randall that has gone over and a lot spend their lives beam on to swells.

Moulds sold pretty recently out of interest

Here is the underwater shape for those interested

http://www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-fo...&Ridx=0&eapi=2

[Smithy]

Very similar hull shape to mine. There is a flop of a 43 Randall here with 2x440 Yanmars made as a game boat that is very seakindly by all accounts.

[MTAQ/BTAQ]

I have read how the old sailing clippers (prior to steam power) crossed the bar under sail - they would have a large sea anchor with a trip line attached to it being dragged behind the vessel - they would sail into the bar and if a big wave knocked the boat then they would "untrip the sea an anchor" which would straighten the vessel up, then pull in the tripping line and sail on over the bar - what do they say "ships of wood and men of iron".

[thylacene]

"Ships of wood, men of iron", 100 years ago I may not have been the boating/fishing enthusiast I am now at 50 years of age LOL. Sounds like it was a hard work high risk hobby. BTW, the boat is called "the Eden Explorer" out of Bermagui.

[Snapperscott]

http://www.edenexplorer.com/vessel.htm

[cormorant]

Hope someone links him to the footage as I wish I could see some of my both good and bad bar crossings. Hairs standing up on neck just thinking about it. He might even comment on his strategy. Looks pretty bad but not sure he could have done alot else and fully self draining boat with a keel to get steerage back it worked.

I have been on yachts with ropes trailing out the back to slow us down ( old form of drouge) in huge seas and high winds prevent broaching but never done it over a bar or considered the old boats having to sail over bars.
I remember reading a book about the old paddlesteamers going over bars to go and load timber and wool onto trading boats on the NSW and Vic coasts . Thought of being on one of those in a bar scares the bejesus out of me.

[smclaren]

Sort of looks like it stalled when it was time to chase that 1st wave in ! Giving an experienced skipper the benefit of the doubt ... that would be my first guess !

[nathank]

Coming from Narooma for most of my life and knowing the bermi bar/ harbour, this looks like a big case of misjudgement. The boat has stalled or coudnt get purchase in the white water.. He got stuck inbetween a set, these guys down south know their stuff but in this instance it just went wrong... Man the clients would have had a story to tell the kids/grandkids.. Hope they got a few kingies!