Bait out fishes lure...Wtf

[kind_cir]

Pulled up at my usual bream spot ond started flicking the Vibe about with no luck. So I put a fresh herring fillet on the other rod and sat it out the back, and continued flicking the vibe. After I had landed 4 good bream on the herring, I gave up flicking the Vibe.

Over the next hour I landed 15 more good bream and was busted of 5 times all on the herring fillets.

So the bait won out on the day.

[BLOOEY]

A switch to a lightly/un weighted softy with some scent may have turned the tables back the other way! Ben

[kind_cir]

A switch to a lightly/un weighted softy with some scent may have turned the tables back the other way! Ben

Yer, but I'll take what works on the day. These were good fish too, not massive but solid 29- 37 cm fish.
When it was on like that, I was not taking any chances.

[finga]

Sounds a bit like what happens at the River to Mud every year.

[cobiaman]

I cant believe your suprised...

[Funchy]

Now I have the tinny I am loaded up with SP's, a bonito for some fillets and a few pillows. Will see how we go in the morrow

[kind_cir]

Now I have the tinny I am loaded up with SP's, a bonito for some fillets and a few pillows. Will see how we go in the morrow

Well I'll see you out the Passage then. I will have herring for bait, and a live well full of bream, and Big cheezy grin.

[Just_chips]

But now your boat stinks, so do your hands, and your clothes.

Why did you start flicking lures in the first place? Was it because you wanted to actively chase the fish or because you think they work and are going to put more fish into your ice box. If you were serious about chasing fish with lures you would not have had herring fillets with you to start with.

Just because somebody has a lure on their line doesn't mean they know how, when or why to use it. Lures are supposed to replicate a sick or injured baitfish which would present an easy meal for a predator. If you were fishing in a spot where bream were not actively hunting then you lessen your chances of success with a lure, the bait may have just been sitting under their noses and they eventually gave in and ate it. Fish are funny creatures, we really know little to nothing about their habits and what makes them tick. The fish may just not have been interested in actually chasing anything on that particular day, and they often aren't around the middle of summer days and become way more active in the cooler mornings and evenings.

Think of it from a logical perspective, it is summer time, there is lots of bait around, particularly herring, there is also an increased amount of predatory activity from things like shark, trevally, jacks, cod, queenies etc probably smashing the herring. There are going to be ample injured herring and possibly even scraps of herring around the place and your tossing a vibe around that is a fraction of the size of the predominant bait species in the area (I have no idea where or how you were working your lure so won't comment) But then you start picking up the fish on a larger piece of the actual bait that many of them may be feeding on, what a surprise.

Don't get me wrong, it's good that you caught a few, but is by no means any sort of indication that bait is better than lures or vice a versa. Each will always have it's place in fishing circles as will this unending argument between bait and lure fishermen.

If you're serious about lure fishing then next time take a variety of differing styles of lures to use as it's worth remembering that fish do become accustomed to seeing lures presented to them and will shy away from poorly presented or overused lures. Vibes hit the market like a freightrain and have since tapered off as more and more of them were tossed around, just as SP's did when they hit the market too.

For me it's as much about the challenge as it is about the catch and have found that succeeding with lures to be way more satisfying than succeeding with bait. Shit, I'm really just happy just to get out these days with a never ending list of committments to work, family and other social activities.

And the other important thing to remember is if you don't have a photo, then it didn't happen.

Kev

[kind_cir]

But now your boat stinks, so do your hands, and your clothes.

Why did you start flicking lures in the first place? Was it because you wanted to actively chase the fish or because you think they work and are going to put more fish into your ice box. If you were serious about chasing fish with lures you would not have had herring fillets with you to start with.

Just because somebody has a lure on their line doesn't mean they know how, when or why to use it. Lures are supposed to replicate a sick or injured baitfish which would present an easy meal for a predator. If you were fishing in a spot where bream were not actively hunting then you lessen your chances of success with a lure, the bait may have just been sitting under their noses and they eventually gave in and ate it. Fish are funny creatures, we really know little to nothing about their habits and what makes them tick. The fish may just not have been interested in actually chasing anything on that particular day, and they often aren't around the middle of summer days and become way more active in the cooler mornings and evenings.

Think of it from a logical perspective, it is summer time, there is lots of bait around, particularly herring, there is also an increased amount of predatory activity from things like shark, trevally, jacks, cod, queenies etc probably smashing the herring. There are going to be ample injured herring and possibly even scraps of herring around the place and your tossing a vibe around that is a fraction of the size of the predominant bait species in the area (I have no idea where or how you were working your lure so won't comment) But then you start picking up the fish on a larger piece of the actual bait that many of them may be feeding on, what a surprise.

Don't get me wrong, it's good that you caught a few, but is by no means any sort of indication that bait is better than lures or vice a versa. Each will always have it's place in fishing circles as will this unending argument between bait and lure fishermen.

If you're serious about lure fishing then next time take a variety of differing styles of lures to use as it's worth remembering that fish do become accustomed to seeing lures presented to them and will shy away from poorly presented or overused lures. Vibes hit the market like a freightrain and have since tapered off as more and more of them were tossed around, just as SP's did when they hit the market too.

For me it's as much about the challenge as it is about the catch and have found that succeeding with lures to be way more satisfying than succeeding with bait. Shit, I'm really just happy just to get out these days with a never ending list of committments to work, family and other social activities.

And the other important thing to remember is if you don't have a photo, then it didn't happen.

Kev

You make some valid points, but your attitude is somewhat demeaning.

I don't mind the smell fish on my hands, boat or clothes, it's totally fine with me. I have caught nemerous good fish on a varitey of lure, and foud it very satisfying. I went out for a pure lure session, like I have done in the past, but this time after a few hours, I did not succeed on them. Being a pure lure fisherman, or pure bait fisherman, does not make one better than the other. A smart fisherman uses what works on the day, and has an arsenell to match. The photo thing does not do a lot for me, as I think it's a pain to upload pics and carry a camera. For those that need proof of their catch to say look at me look at me, or any other reason then that's fine. For those that don't want to have a litte faith and trust and take my word then it is what it is.

I hope the lures work for you every day you go out and you keep smelling might fine.

[thelump]

Those herring are the gun bait mate. Very oily and bream seem to love them either whole or fillets. Well done on your fish mate. Sounds like a great session.

[childers]

But now your boat stinks, so do your hands, and your clothes

Hey big Kev , did your hands and clothes stink before you reported this trip with yer pilly ?

. This had abaited by the time we reached the area but a slow troll soon saw a hookup on a pillie rig and soon after a feisty school mackeral was in my hatch. I re-rigged and set out another pillie

[kind_cir]

Well I done it again today, only an hour later. I took the daughter out this time and we managed quite a lot of fish between us, but the quality was not as good as yesterday. We boated 30 odd bream in 1.5 hrs and only one was undersize with them between 25-28 cm. they all went back into the water except the 31cm model which the daughter caught.

A few other highlights were 2 hard fighting Moses perch, the biggest went 26 cm and I ummed and ered weater to keep it so I could have a taste, but it went back. There was a double hook up with passing boat traffic on lookers, and this was the only undersize fish boated, and it was on my line.

So the pink rod with the girl at the reel done it again and beat me fair and square. She even managed a big mullet in the cast net back at the ramp, when I was trying to teach her how to cast it, all of which went banana style, even the one that got the mullet.

[Symetre]

You make some valid points, but your attitude is somewhat demeaning.

Totally agree

[gruntahunta]

Kevin...u suck mate which is good cause the more that use plastics means the more fish there are for us baities to catch Lol..

Kind Cir... How big are the fillets that you use? I mean what size do you put on the hook? I have always used the whole live fish or whole dead one when they die. Where did you get em mate, I don't mean exactly but what river?

[kind_cir]

Kevin...u suck mate which is good cause the more that use plastics means the more fish there are for us baities to catch Lol..

Kind Cir... How big are the fillets that you use? I mean what size do you put on the hook? I have always used the whole live fish or whole dead one when they die. Where did you get em mate, I don't mean exactly but what river?

Quite happy to teach you what I know, it will blow your mind. Pm sent, give it a go, it's deadly.