Woody Point Winteries

[Lapras]

My wife and I went for a fish while the kids were at school. Got out by around 9am and stayed out 'til just before 2pm. We were looking for whiting so after hearing so many times that live blood worms was the gun bait we bought a packet - $8.70 for five not so big worms (probably the last time).

Tried the mouth of the Pine for some very small whiting which became livies. The weather was fantastic so headed north of the green zone and dropped a few pots. Drifted around the north marker for zip, saw a couple of boats drifting to the south so joined them, again for zip. By this time the tide was starting to pick up so sounded around and found a bit of bait and anchored. Finally got a hot bite and caught 9 between 22cm and 28cm in about 30 minutes plus a couple of smaller throw backs. Had one of the livies picked up and run for 10m before it was dropped minus the tip of its tail - but no other action there. Wind came up and fish moved on - we could not find them again so pulled the pots (none - must still be a bit early) and headed back to the Pine to get out of the chop and see if we could find any hiding in the river. Only very small models so packed it in and headed home.

Would have been nice to get a few more, but still a great day and half a feed is better than none.

Most the 'tings were caught on worms but also used worms more than the squid when the bite was on so not sure if it made the difference. I would not pay that much again for worms so guess I need to do some research and find out if there are worms to be dug in the Pine - any help would be greatly appreciated.


Dave

[kingcray]

Dave well done on the persistance,
not too sure of great wormin spots in the pine but there are plenty of worms at scarborough at low tide. Get some boots and a pitchfork and look for the real clay mud thats what they like. Be careful when you separate the mud not too break them up too much.
I also scored a donut on the crabs recently in about the same area. Wont be long and there should be plenty around.

Dean

[cuzzamundi]

Great report, mate.

Dunno about worms in the Pine, but you can get them along the foreshore around margate/Scott's Point/Scarbie.

Cuzza

[tunaticer]

Check out Youngy's worming how to vid on coastwatch.com and apply that to the Pine river, they are there in various locations.

[Goodoo haven]

Great report, with the persistence you ended up with a lovely feed of whiting.

[Seahorse]

Hope there at the Sandhills tomorrow

[flatzie]

Great report! There is no doubt that you can get winterys on a range of baits, and a lot of reports over the past two years highlight the benefit of Gulp worms as often doing incredibly well. A lot of people rate them as well if not better than live worms, and they are so much easier to get!
As mentioned, you can get good worms in a lot od spots along the front at Redcliffe, Scarborough being a known hotspot for them. But if I had those worms and was anywhere near the Pine of even Caboolture river, I would be using them on Summer Whiting which have been turning up great catches in both rivers in recent months. There are a few areas in the Pine where you can get bloodworms, but they cop a flogging and a lot of people who fish for summer whiting are now resorting to getting worms from Scaborough.
Mate at that price you paid, dont do that again, go dig some.
All the best
Flatzie

[fisho8]

Well done Dave you got a feed out of it have to be happy with that. On the bay with the missus with no kids gotta love that aswell.

[Lapras]

Thanks for the comments and suggestions everyone. Might have to get muddy and see what I can find.

Dean: I normally go pretty good for crabs in that spot so hopefully it is not too long.

Flatzie: Thanks for the info. Never really tried the gulps for 'tings so will give them a go. As for summer whiting in the Pine, it's been years since I got more than the occasional one. I've tried the likely places but only seem to get very small ones. Those reports from Roberl, Dean and the others are bloody frustrating, but also keeps me going back for another try.

Dave

[boomstix]

When using the gulp worms how do you guys rig them up? Do you use the whole thing with a lot of it hanging down from the hook or do you cut them up to only use whats needed to fill the hook?

[yanjarra]

When using the gulp worms how do you guys rig them up? Do you use the whole thing with a lot of it hanging down from the hook or do you cut them up to only use whats needed to fill the hook?

just starting to experiment with this myself. from what i have read on here the preferred method is to cut the worms into segments that only just fit on the hook with the tip exposed. what i would like to know is are people threading them onto the hook like you would a live worm straight through the middle or is it better to fold the worm over itself a few times so it shapes an s bend pattern on the hook. i am assuming the later as it looks more natural as opposed to it just threaded on with the hook hidden where it is pretty rigid and stiff like a bit of board.

[yanjarra]

Thanks for the comments and suggestions everyone. Might have to get muddy and see what I can find.

Dean: I normally go pretty good for crabs in that spot so hopefully it is not too long.

Flatzie: Thanks for the info. Never really tried the gulps for 'tings so will give them a go. As for summer whiting in the Pine, it's been years since I got more than the occasional one. I've tried the likely places but only seem to get very small ones. Those reports from Roberl, Dean and the others are bloody frustrating, but also keeps me going back for another try.

Dave

lapras - you are not alone in your frustration. i fished the run in late last night and thought it would be perfect conditions a few nights after the full moon. tried the shallows to the west of dohles rocks ramp and also around the mouth of bald hills creek with squid strips and gulp worms for a few missed hits and an undersize bream. trolled some hb's down the edge of the main channel through the start of the run out hoping for flatties and tried some ganged squid on dawn hoping for squire out from scotts point reef for nada as well.

the reports show the whiting are in there though i guess its just a matter of finding them. i wonder if the guys who have it sussed are getting them from the same roughish spot continuously or if where they are feeding is changing drastically from trip to trip? i assume downstream of deepwater is more likely than up? i have been fishing about a metre of water but maybe need to get even shallower than that.

[kingcray]

yanjarra you certainly arent far away in location and they are still there, my missus old man got 19 real good summeries on his own 2 days ago up the pine, half on run in and half on run out. All on live blood worms he dug at scarby.
I tried the gulp worms last trip i had up the pine, left a bit hanging off the end of the hook. The little bit got chewed off each time and caught 0 fish whereas the livies were hit hard and swallowed whole hence my rod getting pulled over the side. the 1-1.2mtr depth is pretty right, with the murkier water the SE breezes bring we have found the best.
Dean

[flatzie]

To answer a few questions above, you will not do any good chasing Summer tings on squid or Gulp worms, at least in these locations, no matter what anyone tells you! You will however get Winter whiting on those baits and pretty much anywhere you find them in the bay. Robersl tried the Gulp worms chasing Summer tings, when with me recently, and, well the piece of worm was lying on the floor of my boat when i cleaned the boat, he got beck on to the Blood worms pretty quick once they started biting.
I can see Shane laughing now!
Secondly, fishing for Winterys, dont put a heap of loose Gulp Sandworm Nerisis (6") Worm on your hook, just wastes it. Just cut 2 cm of worm, thread it straight on to the hook with the hook tip just exposed, the winterys love it. I use the blood red, but other colours work as well. It looks straight and ordinary, but if they are there and feeding, you will nail them. By using only 2cm you al;so concentrate the bite of the fish nearer the hook tip as well!!
Cheers
Flatzie
And you can get a number of fish ob one bait

[yanjarra]

thx for the tips guys. sounds like learning to dig some worms is the only way to go to get the summeries although this seems to be an artform of it's own! certainly to exxy to buy at the bait shop for mine...

do the winters and summers usually school up together and feed in the same areas or are they found in differant spots to one another?