Hi guys I'm just wondering if anyone has used or can comment on the new furuno 627 sounder?
I had a 620 on my last boat and absolutely loved it but now looking at what sounder to put on my new boat.
I was thinking the new furuno 627 or a hds 7 but with no structure scan yet as I have already gone to my max budget. What would be a better unit for inshore fishing?
I'm leaning towards the furuno as I can get one brand new for $1200 installed or the hds I can get for $1350 installed.
Cheers guys.
I've had the 627 for a couple of months. Brilliant bit of gear with fantastic screen resolution. The bottom typing feature is also useful. And the tranny works on my boat as I'm an ex 620 user as well where I couldn't get the unit to display at any speed - go figure - same tranny, same screw holes on the 627. I have the Garmin 750s next to it and they are chalk and cheese so far as sounder displays. The Garmin is like looking through a stocking while the 627 is crystal clear. My brother-in-law has the HDS7 and it compares closer to the Garmin than the Furuno IMHO.
Furuno.
Lowrance has an abismal after sales and warrantee history. A quick search here will give you more details.
The 750s garmin is 800 x 600 pixels and a georgeous, extremely high detailed screen - infact one of the highest pixel count screens out there in it's 7" class, I'd say there is something seriously worng with your unit if it's as you describe like 'looking through a stocking'?
I have a HDS7 now for Structure Scan as well as the 750s, and the HDS7 display is noticably blockier in appearance than the Garmin. Run the 750s in max brightness, not auto.
Compared to the new Furuno I stand by my assessment above. And the 750 is hopeless at 40m+. Next time I go out I'll take photos of them side by side with a decent SLR and post the comparison.Originally Posted by aharding
I have the 750s combo as well, absolutely great as a chartplotter, cant really fault it and the main reason i got it,
but as a sounder with the standard transducer I agree with Whiteman, its resolution isnt that great, I understand a bloke in Bush and Beach did a review and got the 1kw transducer for it and said it made a big difference but thought his old furuno was still better if i remember?
I can only go by what i see on others with 620s and 585s when i get on their boats, i know what is there on the Furuno and if the 627 has better resolution again then hopefully ill have the best of both worlds, a great chartplotter in the 750s and a readable sounder in the 627
Mike
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Mike
your still trying to talk yourself[and bec] into the 627....
just do it... you know you wont be happy till you get 1
Thanks for the replies so far guys. Today i had a look at the furuno 620 and 627 side by side. I always thought very highly of my old 620 and loved it but when i compared it to the 627 it was like day and night.
The 627 looks awsome to say the least. I have now ordered a furuno 627 to go on my new boat.
Cheers guys.
The one feature I'd like to see on my 750 is an arrow in a "degrees" bar to show how many degrees off course I am. I know it shows the distance off course but when you're bashing through swell it's hard to read. My old Navman had this most useful feature. Agree that the 750 plotter with the Furuno sounder is an excellent option.
The way i see it is the 627 is a clearer version of the 585. Great in there day but old tech and no real improvement. Furuno are resting on their lorals of the old 585 and arent really making any advancements. I have a dash mounted garmin 750s and a Lowrance hds 10 mounted so you can see it from any fishing position in the boat.
Whiteman if you are having trouble with your 750s in 40+m i would seriously look at your installation and transducer set up. How long have you had this problem with your garmin?
Cheers Mick.
My old 750s had been to 240m with no issues at all many times (marking fish) in the salt, transducer placement is crucial as is running the latest software updates (3.80) and learning to run it in MANUAL mode - noise filters turned off - running bottom lock, surface clarity turned off, running 50khz, turning UP the GAIN to 90+. Running just on auto I'd expect there to be short-comings, but certainly more than 40m. (Auto settings have a habit of weeding out all the returns you DO need to see, this includes "cleaning up" the bottom reading at the sacrifice of detail).
On your comment about off-course, there is a compass tape display in one of the menus which does exactly as you mention.
They also perform better with a P66 transducer upgrade, larger element than the factory supplied td/x.
Cheers
When drifting on the reef from 20m-30m into drop-offs to 60m+ I can see the bottom definition on the 750 deteriorating. No amount of fiddling in manual mode fixes this. It still picks up fish blobs but the definition is not good. The picture becomes a series of vertical lines defining what it sees on the bottom. It could be the tranny but the boat is effectively stationery with no motor or hull interference. I thought about upgrading the tranny to a 1kW model but the price is a joke.
Going back to Furuno was a much better choice as I like the 750's chartplotter (I will have a look for the "tape display" mentioned). You cannot compare the resolution of the superceded Furunos to the new models based on the brochure. The difference is huge and the upgrade was about a better screen resolution and vision from all angles- this has been Furuno's Achilles heel in the past - apart from the tranny not working with the 620 on my boat. The Furuno is still the easiest to use sounder I have come across - particularly where I fish as the depth varies a lot in a short space - and I would have been disappointed if the new model made any major changes to the controls.
I may get out tomorrow and if I get photos you may see what I mean.
Mike,
That was my review in BnB .
To be exact I reckon the 750s with the killerwatt is as good a furuno 585 with a 600w transducer but with the huge resolution difference I think the 750 has better target definition at depth . I agree with the above comments about Furuno resting a bit , the target separtion of just about every other sounder is better these days than the Furunos .I'm told the new Navnets are pretty good tho.
My 750s running a TM260 will happily show pearlies in 120m as seperate returns , as said ealier in manual mode tuned a fair bit.
Birdy
A P66 is not in the same league as a TM260.
One has a single element the other is a broard band seven element transducer. Not comparable on any unit
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