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    PEW. Peeu !!! :(

    Pew admits it targeted Australia for lockouts, left US alone


    29 Jun 2012
    By staff writers


    THE US-based anti-fishing organisation Pew has admitted it pressured the Australian Government to lock anglers out of vast areas of the Coral Sea but would not take the same action in American waters because it would harm the US economy and disadvantage local fishermen.
    The Pew comments have outraged Australian anglers, who stand to be seriously disadvantaged by federal Environment Minister Tony Burke's decision to support the American organisation's sustained anti-fishing campaign.

    In a letter published in the August edition of the US-based Sport Fishing magazine, Pew director of federal fisheries policy Lee Crockett said closing American waters to fishing "wouldn't make sense – for fishing enthusiasts or the environment".

    Crockett was responding to an editorial by Sport Fishing editor-in-chief Doug Olander predicting that Pew's no-fishing campaign in Australia's Coral Sea would result in similar moves to lock American anglers out of the Gulf of Mexico.

    Crockett said Olander's assertion was "misleading and incorrect". He claimed the push to close the Coral Sea to all angling was supported by "hundreds of thousands of people throughout Australia and around the world – including recreational anglers".
    Crockett went on to say that closing the Gulf of Mexico to fishing wouldn't make sense because these waters are a "major US economic driver".

    "The Gulf offers excellent angling opportunities, and sport and commercial fishing generates billions of dollars and fresh seafood to much of the (American) nation," Crockett said.


    The Pew campaign to lock-up the Coral Sea has resulted in Minister Burke proposing to ban all fishing in about 1.3 million square kilometres of water. Other closures proposed by Mr Burke include large areas off the southwest of WA and in South Australia.
    The admission from Pew that it preferred to focus its lockout campaigns in non-American waters has confirmed suspicions held by local angling organisations that extremist environment groups like Pew sees Australia as an "easy target".

    "These revelations back up what many Aussie anglers have been saying for a long time," a spokesman from Keep Australia Fishing, the peak activist group representing Australia's 5 million anglers, told Fisho.

    "These people working for Pew in America don't want to disadvantage their own economy – but they don't mind that happening over here. They don't want to lock American anglers out of prime fishing areas – but they are happy to have exactly that happen to Aussie fishos. Why did our Government listen to these guys?"

    Pew's Lee Crockett describes himself in his letter to Sport Fishing as an "avid angler" and provides details of the outstanding sportfishing he has enjoyed in the Gulf of Mexico. Australian anglers will no doubt be pleased to know that Crockett will be able to continue to enjoy his fishing exploits in his home waters while anglers over here endure the lockouts he and his Pew cohorts have seemingly convinced our Government we need to have !


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    Eco Terrorists.

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    So blatant . Tell me, if Env. Minister Burke gets this thru, can it be reversed later?

    I've heard it can't be but surely not.

    Anyone?

    John
    "let not he boast who puts his armor on, as he who takes it off"

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    Ausfish Premium Member PinHead's Avatar
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    the yanks will stand and fight over certain issues. eg their gun lobby etc.

    Alas..we just accept everything.

    People should have taken to the streets over the carbon tax but we just sit back and say it sucks and we do nothing about it. Same as these closures. Writing letters etc to pollies is a waste of time. They know nothing is going to happen. Just send em to the round file.

    We need some fire in the belly like the Vietnam protesters had years agon..dunno where that fire has gone but it has.

    When my beloved bunnies were drop kicked out of the comp by Murdoch and his henchmen, ardent Souths supporters like Ray Martin, Andrew Denton and George Piggins rallied the troops and organised protests. They had 80000 people march through Sydney.

    Where are the public faces that could organise protests against these closures. People like Rex Hunt, ET, Andrew Symonds, Matt Hayden.
    It does not seem to matter any more..we just take the rough end of the pineapple without a murmur.

    I do not know how to get something started but I sure wish some people would..they have the public face and contacts to get something underway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinHead View Post



    Where are the public faces that could organise protests against these closures. People like Rex Hunt, ET, Andrew Symonds, Matt Hayden.
    It does not seem to matter any more..we just take the rough end of the pineapple without a murmur.

    I do not know how to get something started but I sure wish some people would..they have the public face and contacts to get something underway.
    i agree, where are our "public faces" on this, as i see it they have a duty to help us stand up for our issues, rally the troops as you say. but not a word gets said from them, maybe we should be emailing them and asking them the same questions, and what they are going to do to help us.

    ...of all the liars among mankind, the fisherman is the most trustworthy. ~William Sherwood Fox.

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    If you want to change the Coral Sea zoning plan, then fill out this letter composed by Nomad sportfishing. It only takes a minute. If you have a facebook page and friends who are fishos, then share it about

    http://nomadsportfishing.com.au/word...ional-fishing/

    Ian

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    Ok so who are the recreational anglers who wanted this?
    "hundreds of thousands of people throughout Australia and around the world – including recreational anglers".
    Or was that only before the rules for taking pelagics were predictably changed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian.young View Post
    If you want to change the Coral Sea zoning plan, then fill out this letter composed by Nomad sportfishing. It only takes a minute. If you have a facebook page and friends who are fishos, then share it about

    http://nomadsportfishing.com.au/word...ional-fishing/

    Ian
    haha..read that letter..no thanks. I am not interested in signing someone's letter which is puerely based on protecting their business.

    I don't want any closures..not their suggested ideas..it is just bum licking.

    My attitude is to tell the Govt and Pew to get stuffed with their closures..all of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennykenny View Post
    i agree, where are our "public faces" on this, as i see it they have a duty to help us stand up for our issues, rally the troops as you say. but not a word gets said from them, maybe we should be emailing them and asking them the same questions, and what they are going to do to help us.
    Where are all our representative bodies??
    How many bodies do QLD (as an example) anglers have representing them now-a-days??
    I intend on living for-ever....so far so good


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    Quote Originally Posted by PinHead View Post

    My attitude is to tell the Govt and Pew to get stuffed with their closures..all of it.
    How do you intend to do that Greg?

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    An expansion of protected zones of some sort in the Coral Sea is inevitable, and I support some of them. The question is where you draw the line. I don't want oil-rigs on top of Kenn Reef, I don't want the Tassie super trawler heading north. I support restricting commercial fishing in sensitive reef areas, and if you do that, you can't justify a rec free-for-all. That's my personal point of view, nothing more.

    But I cannot see a justification for barring pelagic fishing in green zones, and I cannot understand why the minimally invasive practice of catch-and-release warrants any form of restriction.

    I won't risk throwing that away by doubling down on no-closures-no-thanks-get-stuffed. But that's just me and the 8,000+ others who have already signed the Nomad letter.

    Cheers
    Ian

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian.young View Post
    An expansion of protected zones of some sort in the Coral Sea is inevitable, and I support some of them. The question is where you draw the line. I don't want oil-rigs on top of Kenn Reef, I don't want the Tassie super trawler heading north. I support restricting commercial fishing in sensitive reef areas, and if you do that, you can't justify a rec free-for-all. That's my personal point of view, nothing more.

    But I cannot see a justification for barring pelagic fishing in green zones, and I cannot understand why the minimally invasive practice of catch-and-release warrants any form of restriction.

    I won't risk throwing that away by doubling down on no-closures-no-thanks-get-stuffed. But that's just me and the 8,000+ others who have already signed the Nomad letter.

    Cheers
    Ian
    they probably just read the letter and thought something is better than nothing.

    I do not want any closures.

    I also do not want catch and release fishing only...Nomad charges a fortune and you cannot get a feed? get real.

    I cannot see the justification for any green zones..what are they?

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    As I said, it's my personal POV, nothing more, and the arguments for and against green zones and marine parks in all their variations have been made about a million times before, both by the Greens, the current Labor govt, and the Libs who introduced the GBR marine park and the network of other marine protected areas in 2006. Neither side of politics is in favour of no closures, no marine parks, no green zones. So yeah, something is better than nothing, which is what the draft plan for many of these areas call for. If you want to take some other form of action to change this status quo, then go for it! PS: Kenn Reef and the other areas under discussion are a pretty long way to go if all you are after is a feed of fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian.young View Post
    As I said, it's my personal POV, nothing more, and the arguments for and against green zones and marine parks in all their variations have been made about a million times before, both by the Greens, the current Labor govt, and the Libs who introduced the GBR marine park and the network of other marine protected areas in 2006. Neither side of politics is in favour of no closures, no marine parks, no green zones. So yeah, something is better than nothing, which is what the draft plan for many of these areas call for. If you want to take some other form of action to change this status quo, then go for it! PS: Kenn Reef and the other areas under discussion are a pretty long way to go if all you are after is a feed of fish.
    I will repeat myself..no closures. PEW can get stuffed and p off back to the USA. Not wanted, not needed and not welcome.

    Any member of PEW that wants to talk to me face to face will get told the same and more. I have had a gutful of yank mobs like PEW and Sea Shepherd trying to influence the planet. Add to that lot the Australian Greens..nothing but unproductive low lifes..radical greenies are oxygen thieves. Give them a yellow zone and they will turn it green in no time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian.young View Post
    As I said, it's my personal POV, nothing more, and the arguments for and against green zones and marine parks in all their variations have been made about a million times before, both by the Greens, the current Labor govt, and the Libs who introduced the GBR marine park and the network of other marine protected areas in 2006. Neither side of politics is in favour of no closures, no marine parks, no green zones. So yeah, something is better than nothing, which is what the draft plan for many of these areas call for. If you want to take some other form of action to change this status quo, then go for it! PS: Kenn Reef and the other areas under discussion are a pretty long way to go if all you are after is a feed of fish.
    what a stupid statement..even worse to go all that way and catch a fish and toss it back.

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