Chimo, the only thing that will save you is that foot, don't every loose it![]()
Chimo, the only thing that will save you is that foot, don't every loose it![]()
Garry
Retired Honda Master Tech
This was my old boat. I have upgraded to the 2100WA. All I can say is this shape was based on a Savage Tasman ans is a great all round run about. I have had this boat out to the Cape Moreton and back on a good day with no drama's. You need to drive to the conditions. It is easy to load and an unload yorself having the walk through cabin. It did not have a drive on trailer and could load and unload it easy enough on my own. Easy to clean and I put good power on the back of it which cost me about 5900k to do as I upgraded it. I sold it for a alot less than what it owed me. Take your time mate there are alot of good buys out there.
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Every time I see $30K+ for a small trailer boat I fall off my chair.
Hi Guys, quick update, I spent the morning getting my WA Recreational Skippers Ticket, years since I have driven a boat and the practical was done in an early Bertrum with inboard - about 21'. Nice solid/heavy boat. Anyway now at least I will be legal when I find the boat. So far have looked at some at dealers and also the Clearwater 1750 cuddy (2008/2009 with 90 HP Suzy 4 stroke) really nice rig - but. Also missed out on a 2010 Tournament 1750 with 90 hp E-Tec only 20 hrs on both - great buy at $33K - was on the way to the dealer and he phoned and said it had just gone. Great thing is I am in no huge rush. I am also flying to Gove on Monday for 10 days so can't do much during that time - hopefully some more boats will come up in WA during that time.
Also there is a Freedom 5.2 cuddy 2006 model with a 75 HP honda 4 stroke - would welcome thoughts on this boat as I think it would maybe be under powered.
Cheers
Dave
EX alias G1 for the Grumpy One - Now just relaxed and Smilin.
In my opinion Jollydave a freedom 5.2 cuddy powered with a 75hp would be underpowered if you are going offshore. as someone has already mentioned there are a lot of underpowered rigs out there. personally i would not go below a 115 for any boat over 5 meters. depending on max power of the hull. I have a yalta 2000 with a 140hp 4 stroke susy and running out to heron and back with 4 people on board loaded with fuel, bait, fish and everything else it is able to keep on top of a swell and chop with a following sea. i have been in other boats that run 115hp on 5.5 meter fibreglass hulls and they are just adequate out in the deep . as for aluminium hulls in my opinion plate or pressed they dont match any well set up fibreglass hull out in the deep. aluminium vs fibreglass materials, both have their problems but after having a pressed hull go bad i would only touch a plate hull.
I am 61 and now retired to hervey bay, i still get to use the big boat however for creeks etc i have 3.4 edgetracker with a 15hp on the back for nipping up the creeks or just off shore on a good day. the big boat is a bitch by myself to launch especially on a weekend when everyone wants to spend only 5 minutes waiting for someone to launch a boat, however being retired i now only go fishing on weekdays (weekends when my son comes up from brisbane). launching and retrieving by myself i use a 3000lb winch with remote control so i can hold the back of the boat with a rope and guide the front on the rollers, i still dont believe in dunking the whole trailer as there arnt too many ramps with washdown facilities on site.
whatever you buy they are all make holes in the wallet as well as the water.
tight lines for the future.
Retirements great except it generally means your getting older, broken arms and legs when younger from bikes now remind me of the fun when young, but won't stop me from havin a lot more fun in retirement.
Thanks
dave
I think around the 90 - 115HP is medium power for the 5 - 5.5 metre range depending on the boat. Low power may be ok if just sticking to smooth waters and boats lightly loaded with people and gear.
Hope you find something good when you are ready..
Ive driven the Tournament 1750 with an Etec90, went well and handled OK for its size, a little tender at rest. I test drove at an on water test day they arranged. When we came back to shore in the 1750, I asked for a drive of the 1800 w/ Etec 115. The difference was chalk and cheese. The 1800 is slightly longer but much wider, huge reverse chines on the rear half make it very stable at rest. Through broadwater chop from cruisers etc, the ride difference was like short wheel base 4wd versus long wheel base, ie the 1800 was smoother. End result, I have an 1800 w/Etec115. I actually bought the test boat and got a GREAT deal. Some drama's with the new boat but all great now, excellant after sales service from Tournament too, they looked after me.
I could be wrong but I think the Freedom became Baysport. I have a Baysport 575 with a Yammie 115 2stroke.
The Baysport hull has a centreline concave tunnel about a foot wide from the base of the bow down to the stern to assist planning. Does the Freedom you are considering have that?
My boat is adequately powered but only just... It could do with more. The hull is very stable at rest and very dry because of the massive bow flare and hard chines. The deep V shape is only in the centre two thirds. This makes it great in smooth water and wonderfull at rest but a bit noisy in the chop.
I believe the foam filled chassis and glassed over topside join makes it a very strong boat but I don't have any experience offshore yet. The finish is ok but done to a price to make it an affordable package. The layout is great and works well. How much do they want for the Freedom?
Thanks for the reply Walrus, fly out to Darwin tomorrow and then to Gove for 10 days and have not been to see this boat as I think it is probably under powered and due to the price overpriced to repower to more HP. The boats seem to have a good right up in earlier tests but I am now starting to lean towards the Tournament 1750, Clearwater 1750, Savage Tasman or the Revival 525's.
regards
Dave
FREEDOM ESCAPE 520
Just Listed
Length: 17' 1" - 5.20m
Presented in as new condition and loaded with extras is this great all-rounder with roomy cuddy cabin with privacy screen. There is seating for 5-6 plus the bunk area and lots of storage with removable rear seat boxes. With the Bimini canopy, clears and storm sheet the interior is fully covered. The extras include CD?Stereo system, Gps/Sounder, 27Mhz radio, Dual batteries and more. There is also Full offshore safety equipment and a drive on style trailer for easy launching and retrieving. This package is fully optioned and ready to go so come and gab a bargain.
Price: AU $29,990
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I have the Southern Star (Southwind) Classic with a 100HP Yamaha on the back. It is extremely stable and good for power. It punches well above its weight and will get you just about anywhere on a good day. If you were to buy the 525 Classic I would suggest getting an electric anchor winch as it is a pain getting through the cabin the retrieve the anchor.
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Angry
Hi again Dave, if you want to take a few people or a bit of overnighting or camping gear on it, I wouldn't go less than 115 on anything 5.2-5.5m and if your budget has you starting to look at some of the older/heavier hulls like seafarers and haines hunters (still fantastic boats, don't worry about how old they are) with newer motors i wouldn't have anything less than 140-150 if they are in the 5.5 to 6m range.
When you test drive anything, make sure you take a couple of friends and load it right up to simulate how many people and how much gear you will have on board for when you want to use it.
Hi All, back home in WA from Gove and no work planned for the future so now more time to hunt for the boat. One that has just come up in WA is a Revival 525 Delux - full canopy etc, has 90 HP Merc 4 stroke. Has any one on the site had any thing to do with the Revival and what are they like in the open. All I have been able to find so far has been good reports, fairly sof riding and reasonably stable. Also thoughts on the 4 stroke 90 Merc.
Cheers
Dave
G1
There are a few older boats (under 10 yrs) around on the east coast for good value. A bit of bargaining, someone to look at it for you(or a flight over), freight and it should come close to your budget, if not under in some cases.
cheers
Wayne
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