Rescue: what would you do?

[finga]

Correct me if I'm wrong, and believe me I have been at times, but that's another story, but, I haven't read anywhere that explains the situation the stricken vessel was in. Was it sinking, motor no go, out of fuel, lost anchor and drifting to Tahiti, seriously ill person on board, hook in finger, explosive diarrhea, missing his mum, was it close to mainland, way out to sea, where was the Island they where anchored at, how far away was the vessel in distress from the party goers, how far away was the rescue vessel in time and distance. I feel if some of these questions were answered, one could make a better judgement.

Ran out of coke for the rum??
Who knows what the problem was and I, for 2, would love to know why the V-sheet was held out

Radio guys....use the bloody radio......
You can use a radio and be blind drunk....

Quick quizz time.
It's a Friday night.
You and your mates are watching some footy and polishing of a cartoon of happiness.
What do you do if your mate (the Bronco's supporter) has a heart attack walking over to the beer fridge whilst watching The Bunnies trounce the ponies??
A) drive him to the hospital
B) call an Ambulance
C) sweep him out the door as he's a Bronco's nutjob
D) tell him to crawl the rest of the way with your beer while he still kicking a bit

[TopBhoy]

Ran out of coke for the rum??
Who knows what the problem was and I, for 2, would love to know why the V-sheet was held out

Radio guys....use the bloody radio......
You can use a radio and be blind drunk....

Quick quizz time.
It's a Friday night.
You and your mates are watching some footy and polishing of a cartoon of happiness.
What do you do if your mate (the Bronco's supporter) has a heart attack walking over to the beer fridge whilst watching The Bunnies trounce the ponies??
A) drive him to the hospital
B) call an Ambulance
C) sweep him out the door as he's a Bronco's nutjob
D) tell him to crawl the rest of the way with your beer while he still kicking a bit

E) Grab his share of the beers before the others do :-)

[SunnyCoastMark]

No brainer there - call the ambulance and they will tell you what to do until they arrive.

Then turn back to the TV only to see that the Broncs have scored 6 tries in the last 2 minutes to beat the Bummies.

[cormorant]

The " good samaritan" act offers relief / shield in civil matters but not sure in criminal matters and not sure at what level you have to take it to have it done. The death of common sense is a sad day. All to do with circumstances.

As we all know a small emergency can turn into a big one fast ( well in the minds of the person feeling in danger) as they make progressively worse decisions or teh people around them do. .

How would you be if you picked up the 6 guys on the boat , your boat was overloaded and you didn't have enough jackets and were then fined / charged with a offence ?? Maybe get 4 to swim alongside . ha ha. Fair or let em drown. If you did are you liable? Should you seriously have to go to court to solve this idiodic decision by police on the day?

http://www.asa.org.au/static/6/8/05b...e6d4d53538.pdf


Your a professional coal miner and you see 2 kids tunelling on the beach and know they should be shoring up the hole. You walk bye . Are you liable ?? Should you be charged.


There is a marine resque example page 13
http://www.ofaat.com.au/Images/docum...volunteers.pdf

Edit laws, /Rules/ enforcement are different in each state in regards to moored boats and drinking so learn your local rules As bad a s trailer towing rules being different.

[dec0guy]

Not sure if the rule has changed but it was definitely not an offence to operate a dinghy with no motor whilst drinking in Qld .
A few years ago I fished a barra comp in the Fitzroy with my brother and a mate. We almost filled the boat with empty tinnies, and when the water police came and tested every powerboat driver around us, just laughed when they saw what a mess we were in.

DUI riding a bicycle is an offence, so i would guess a dingy could be the same

[Lovey80]

[B]Mate of mine was moored (multiple lines and anchors clearly not going anywhere) up at an island up here in Cairns and was heavily drinking with mates with an expectation to get off the boat and party that night on the island[/B]

old mates original post above.so by the post above, appears clear to me they went out with the intent to drink heavily then party further on the island. Note the words "was heavily drinking". No defence. How can you sit there and defend them. There is n oe xcuse whatsoever. The master of the vessel had the responsibility to stay sober at 0.0%, or desigante a sober driver of the vessel if the master himself wnated to drink. No this excuse or that excuse. You go out with the intent to "heavily drink" you cop it on the chin. I have no sympathy for him for being charged. sorry if that upsets anyone, but the BS trying to justify it just doesn't work IMHO.

Mike

There has been a whole lot of rubbish in this thread and still we haven't got the proper details off of the OP.

Firstly, the OP claims the vessel was moored? Well was it? For the purposes of being legally allowed to drink, it needed to be on a swing mooring (or the other hard fixtures stated in a harbour in the regs). He can have 50 anchors out with 100mm rope and anchors big enough to stop the QEII and he still wouldn't be legal to drink above 0.05BAC. If he was on a swing mooring he CAN DRINK AS MUCH AS HE WANTS. All this crap about having one person on board below 0.05 in this circumstance is just opinion, and it means as much.

(Below is just my opinion)
Secondly, lets assume (because really we have bugger all info to play with here) he was on a swing mooring and getting on it. Had drank 6 heavy beers in the past 2 hours when the V sheet was seen......... Was the vessel in distress anchored or drifting? A lot of factors here to come up with one very very simple answer. And the question to that answer is this: If the (drunk) skipper of the vessel had not responded to the distressed vessel, would a reasonable person believe that the distressed vessel was in so much danger that had the (drunk) skipper not responded that serious risk to life or serious injury was likely. If the answer is YES. Then knowing that I am legally drunk I would respond and only then.

Now one of the posters in this thread has already commented on the strict liability of DUI and a magistrate would be forced to find you guilty. However, I don't believe a magistrate has the discretion to not record the offence on ones record for DUI with even this as mitigating circumstances. However, I believe it is a defendants right to promote any matter to a district court and be judged by a jury of ones peers. That right there is where I would be taking it if the answer to the above question was yes. If a jury of my peers decides that I should cop a DUI charge instead of saving a life, then I would cop it sweet but that would be one hell of a precedence to set.

EDIT: Crunchy was right on the parked car thing. If you want to sleep off alcohol in your car, sleep on the back seat and throw your keys under the seat. When the police turn up, if they ask where your keys are, tell them you don't know. If you don't even "know" where your keys are, you can't be in control and there is certainly no intent to drive.

[TopBhoy]

There has been a whole lot of rubbish in this thread and still we haven't got the proper details off of the OP.

I guess that last post has just added to it

[Corry]

Wow, I just read all 6 pages of this, guess that's 45min of my life I'm not gunna get back.

Corry

[Shawn 66]

Ran out of coke for the rum??
Who knows what the problem was and I, for 2, would love to know why the V-sheet was held out

Radio guys....use the bloody radio......
You can use a radio and be blind drunk....

Quick quizz time.
It's a Friday night.
You and your mates are watching some footy and polishing of a cartoon of happiness.
What do you do if your mate (the Bronco's supporter) has a heart attack walking over to the beer fridge whilst watching The Bunnies trounce the ponies??
A) drive him to the hospital
B) call an Ambulance
C) sweep him out the door as he's a Bronco's nutjob
D) tell him to crawl the rest of the way with your beer while he still kicking a bit

EASY , C AND D .
Shawn

[finga]

Why is it no-one has used a radio??

[Mister]

Why is it no-one has used a radio??

Don't have a license and/or doesn't know how to operate one (er sorry before a multi page discussion that should be RROCP or similar)