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Thread: Dual 'purpose' surf rod.

  1. #1

    Dual 'purpose' surf rod.

    Not so much dual 'purpose', but more dual reel-type.
    If I was to use something like a 40mm BHVLG (extra high frame guide) as the stripper guide, could I swap between an 6.5" Alvey and spinning reel at will?

    Cheers

  2. #2

    Re: Dual 'purpose' surf rod.

    Yep sure can.

  3. #3

    Re: Dual 'purpose' surf rod.

    That was the answer I was hoping for.
    Next question, will the casting distance of the Alvey be drastically impaired by going from a huge hoop guide to the 40mm BHVLG?

    Cheers

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    Re: Dual 'purpose' surf rod.

    Depends where you plaace it but normally no.The reel seat placement is a different question.
    Graham

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    Re: Dual 'purpose' surf rod.

    Quote Originally Posted by grave41 View Post
    The reel seat placement is a different question.
    Graham
    Standard 'Alvey' low mount position, I was thinking.

  6. #6

    Re: Dual 'purpose' surf rod.

    I have seen rods set up with two reel seats and I have even taped on one of the these
    http://www.therodworks.com.au/226-Pl...-FS-6S-7S.html



    The 40 BHVLG will probably be better than the BIG metal hoop
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    Re: Dual 'purpose' surf rod.

    Alveys cast good, but that is the end of the story IMO.. Go spin.

    Same nasty old design they use....

    Give me an Alvey with some nice specs and Ill go there, but in truth never again.

    cheers

    Dan

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    Re: Dual 'purpose' surf rod.

    The only good alvey is the one in the bin, I hate the things. One of my passions is surf fishing; I also build rods so I get to test/try lots of ideas out. I hate to admit this but many many moons ago I use to use the large wire striper guides much to my disgust now. Every time I cast I would hear the line whipping against the blank. So I thought bugger this for a joke I’m going to try a smaller but higher frame guide. The Fuji high frame 40 is great and you will pick up many meters of distance using one. In fact, the belief with using an 60mm plus wire stripper guide was to allow the line to freely flow but in actual fact it robbed you of distance be case the line hit the blank so hard and fast.

    Reducing or chocking the line at that point, helps keep the line away from the blank as well as control the line once past that point. It also helped the line travel in a more controlled fashion through the remainder of the guides. I use spinning reels on all my surf rods along with low mount reel seats. I make my cast holding the line with my left hand close to the bottom of the rod, this gives more control and certainly more power to cast the bait or lure out the back. The reel seat position will all depend on how you cast but I do recommend you try it using a spin reel to gauge where the seat should be located. There are no hard a fast rules to how a rod should be built. If you need a rod to do certain things and you build it to those requirements then that’s a good rod, it can also be called a custom-built rod. If you have an Alvey then the best thing you could do is piss it off and buy a spinning reel. You will never look back. Alvey reels are ancient technology and yet they still turn out an old design with new materials and colours, its still an old reel. That would be like Ford building the old T model today but with more plastic and a new colour.

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    Re: Dual 'purpose' surf rod.

    Stu, each to their own and i reckon the Alvey has a place, last week at Straddie i had the chance to use a surf rod with a spinner on it i got for my wife, initially i thought what a ripper, but you really cant slow roll it back like you do with an Alvey and keep in touch with the line all the time, it was a Greenback with a baitrunner on it and it cast a 7 ball a mile, couldnt believe it, but slow rolling with the Alvey is so much easier and you need to worry about sand... high mount or low mount i reckon its more whatever works for you
    Tangles KFC


  10. #10

    Re: Dual 'purpose' surf rod.

    Thanks guys!
    I think I'll grab an off-the-shelf Alvey rod, and retrofit a 40mm BHVLG. And a threadline.
    If that works to my liking for this season, I will look at building one on one of those 'modern' surf rod blanks that I keep hearing about for next season.

  11. #11

    Re: Dual 'purpose' surf rod.

    Stuart,
    Would you still recommend using the 40mm high frame guide when using a spinning reel?
    Cheers!

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    Re: Dual 'purpose' surf rod.

    Yep, thats what I use on mine.

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    Re: Dual 'purpose' surf rod.

    If you want you can purchase an abu sliding reel seat so you can use it in either position Ebay uk normally have them.
    Graham

  14. #14

    Re: Dual 'purpose' surf rod.

    Quote Originally Posted by Horse View Post
    I have seen rods set up with two reel seats and I have even taped on one of the these
    http://www.therodworks.com.au/226-Pl...-FS-6S-7S.html
    That's the type I used on some heavy Snyder surf rods I used to have.They're very basic but seem to be very strong.I used Abu overheads (Ambassadeur 12) fishing for gummies & smaller bronzies etc.Still use the Abu reels.
    Last edited by moater; 10-05-2012 at 12:37 PM. Reason: extra

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