I wouldn't be too concerned Troy if Pete, Grand Marlin, reckons the boat is spot on it would be good enough for me. He probably knows every inch of the thing from upsidedown and insideout having done all the fitout. From all the comments about Seaweeds boat that I've read on here are even half correct you would be on a winner.
Pinhead pick on another member you have a problem with.Originally Posted by PinHead
You have this obsestion with members that you do not like and just keep having digs at them.
When you start a thread do i give you a hard time.
I am not going to risk being banned because of the way you put some people down and i think you do it is because you know many members will back you.
Nothing more to say just keep on being pinhead you will get your day.
Troy
Ps i can quote many times when you pick your moment to put people down so if it makes you feel how great you are go for it.
what are you on about? I am not picking on you..just advising you to talk to an owner of a Chinese built Noble..why listen to those that have only looked at them..talk to someone that owns one.
you said you are worried 'cos someone said they did not like the build quality of the Chinese boats..yet you neglect to mention the other post that saidthe Aus built boats weren't all that good.
I don't ask or expect anyone to "back me"..don't want that nor care about it.
get over it...just stick me on your igone list. care factor = zero.
Hi Troy,
If you are looking at ANY welded plate boat, get the hull checked out by a certified alloy welder or marine surveyor familiar with alloy fabrication methods.It will cost $$$ for a written structural report but that is cheap insurance. Making a commitment to purchase before getting a hull checked is putting the cart before the horse IMO.
ROLL TIDE, ROLL.................
Regards,
Peter
I have been over a few of the Chinese nobles and can not fault the hull structurally.
Martys boat I know inside out.
Every boat will have a few teething problems but as long as they are minor things and the company stands behind it's product, then you can't ask for more than that.
The parent company of noble is huge... It builds a whole range of commercial ships, ferries, barges etc etc and are very well respected in the marine industry.
If I thought they were crap I would say so and definitely would have nothing to do with them.
Everyone has their own opinion and Troy, you ultimately have to make up your own mind
Cheers
Pete
Pinhead my reaction to you was carried on over another thread.
If you were giving sound advise then i apologise to you.
Troy
Troy
First I will start with the smart ass comment made by pin head in relation to why listen to those that have only looked at them, talk to someone who owns one.
Seriously you don't have to be einstein to realise that the nobles down at the kawana boat show a few years ago were terrible and I feel for the poor buggers that purchased them. When plate sides don't line up and terrible welding and paint that peels off, geez you don't need to own one to realise how badly made they where. If it's captain seaweeds boat you are looking at well that boat I cannot comment on as I have not seen it, the newer ones that grand marlin has been fitting out may have changed and be of better build quility. Just stand back and take a good look at the boat, look along the plate sides and see if there is any bad warping, look to see if all plate side lline up if not this is a good indication that it has not sat on the jig properly, look and inspect all welds and look in the kill tank for good workmanship.
Good luck with your purchase and I hope it works out for you.
Steve
Your Post is exactly what i was concerned about.
One member tells you one thing and other says the opposite.
Who do you believe and if i take your advise meaning no offence do i go back to this bloke and tell him i want to have a look at the sides to check whether they are straight .
So i get worried and confused but this is a Forum where members have there opinions.
Troy
Hi Troy,
I think you have to take everyone's opinion on board but in the end its your decision. The problem with asking questions on forums is your going to get plenty of different opinions and some of them you wont like.
Take the boat for a run have a good look at it and if your happy buy it.
Cheers Bull
Hey Troy, I know it's always a worry buying any boat due to the huge number of variables.
Please understand that on a forum you will get 100 differing opinions about everything so best not to try and take on any one particular bit of advice but read everything and see what the trend overall is. So don't get upset if someone says something you dont want to hear, it is just their experience, others have different ones.
The boat you agreed to buy will most likely be a good boat, overall because I doubt if Noble build bad boats, but like every builder they have had some teething issues at times.
What I got out of the advice on here overall is that they are a good boat and worth owning, but yes there have been some that had some issues which you may need to look out for. I feel very confident that all builders have had their problems at times, I have seen issues in all the big brands at different times.
It is good advice though if you are not 100% sure about what you are looking at and perhaps not very experienced around boats to have a builder or suitably qualified person to check it over.
At the end of the day if it all looks good, runs well and you feel positive about it, that's a good start
Looking forward to your report on it .
Hi
As has been said Noble has been manufacturing in China for some time now. I know this as I had to ship specific parts to China for Noble. These included seats, windows and many other parts.They would be used as prototypes and everything was being done to specific requirements. I do also know that Ben was in China overseeing the manufacture so I am sure that the quality would be on a par with anything made in Australia.
the fact is I think that it was far cheaper to manufacture over there and have the boats sent back to Australia. I am sure the quality is still as good as it was before.
There may be problems associated with products where ever they are made so who is to say that just because something is now manufactured in China it is any worse than something manufactured in the USA or Australia.
i think there is a preconceived notion that if it is made overseas then it has to be FLAWED.
Just my opinion.
Ronnie
Hi Troy,
Well I'm one of those who have actually got a 7.5 mtr Noble,great boats, can't complain, great build but a few concerns, a few have said check the welds, mmm bit hard as most welds are bogged up, and that is my biggest problem , exsesive use of bog, cracking when Hull flexes, and where stress points are, { cabin area, hard top under gunnels, on top of gunnels, and paint a bit thin in places, after 12 moths you can really notice it in places, mainly on top of gunnels, , you can see where someone has taken pride in there work one side is good, other starboard is bit ordinary, but you cant see this when you first take delivery, comes out later!!!}} having problems with mine now, bog is splitting and cracking, not a good look on a hull that is only 12 months old, paint bubbling in certain areas, , where Nobles sub contractors have done the work, {windscreen}, unlike Marty I have'nt got the ease to get these fixed at a realistic price, reported back to Noble my problems, they sent me a warranty claim form, need 3 quotes, all 3 repairers said boat needs to be taken back , resprayed and bogged properly!!!This is mega bucks and cant see Noble forking out thousands to get it done again, in Broome, would have to be taken back to Perth , more big bucks, so at this point will just put up with it and when I'm rich and famous will get it resprayed, and rebogged.
Apart from the cosmetic problems, { which you would'nt notice , unless you owned the Boat}, they are a great riding Boat, anyone that fish's with me has always raved about how smooth they are. and we go out in some pretty shit weather, even to the point that the guy who did the fitout, is looking around to buy one, thats how impressed he was!! I would have no hesitation in buying another, but would get the paint, and bogging done in Australia.
Have got a thread on here showing the build in China, and the fit out being done here in Broome, you can see for yourself!!!
Just my thoughts and comments
Broomey
I had a boat made in Australia and it was crap. It doesn't matter where you have one built there's going to be problems unless you have a custom job done and the owner/builder is upfront with you about how the boat is built and why they have done it this way or that. If you want changes to an original design - then ask/query them about it before it starts. No good argueing about it once done. Have a good talk to the company and ask to be involved with the build - eg receive regular updates/photos/emails. If at any stage before you sign a contract, you question yourself or them, then I'd say can the project. It's easy to see how much care is put into a job if you buy a production boat - take off (unbolt) the cushioning and see how many attempts they make to drill a bl**dy hole. Don't get me started on this.
In the end - it's your decision not anybody elses. If you don't agree with someones comments - don't take it onboard. If you're going to take offense to people's opinions - don't ask for them.
I apologise to everyone for starting this thread and asking questions on a forum.
I think i needed reasurance as i have never owned a plate boat and seen here about problems with some brands.
I am sorry and should have known better.
Troy
Hey Troy - all good bro - lighten up mate - the forum is public domain and it is easy to be offended or misunderstand peoples messages.
You started a good thread let it take it's course and pick out the good bits and take onboard other stuff.
I bought a Noble made in China. I agree with most posts here - it would be better if welds not bogged to keep an eye on them but the bog that is on good welds with no flex have stayed good and are all fine and look great - like a glass boat.
I think it would have been smarter of them to keep the weld off high stressed welds such as canopy mounts and engine transom just use the bog where pretty counts and stress is low such as deck rails.
Would I change anything I have done with my purchase - no - happy with it all till now, but keeping an eye on two flex spots to be sure they are just flex, not cracks - well one is a definite crack but not critical location.
Pretty much what Broomey, Capt Seaweed and Grand Marlin have said is spot on in my experience.
Cheers
Trev
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