Victoria boaties hit!!

[TopBhoy]

Some steep increases....how do they compare to other States? I imagine poor!!

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mor...-1226215929413

http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/art...test-news.html

[Yellowjack]

The cost of obtaining a boating licence is also set to surge from $54.40 to $643

Why such an increase? Would this be likely to happen in QLD?

[tunaticer]

Why such an increase? Would this be likely to happen in QLD?

If Anna gets back in it will be highly likely.

[Mike Delisser]

If Anna gets back in it will be highly likely.

Except the Lib-Nat Coalition gained power in Victoria about 12 months ago, WA boaties and anglers also received the largest fee increases in their history around 12 months after they elected the Barnett Lib-Nat Coalition Government over there. In both cases prior to the state elections the Lib-Nat Coalition went after the fishermans vote and promised to look after them if they got in........sound familiar?
Katter is looking better and better every day to me.

[Steeler]

Apparently Fisho's will never be worse off under conservative governments.

Oh well better get ready for Nick Griener's puppet bumbling Barry to follow suit down here in NSW.

Given a QLD state election is loomimg it may pay to ask Mark MP for some sort of clarification on his party's position on such fees.

[rayken1938]

Any increase in penalties help to get rid of the ratbag element off the water and will make us all more safety conscious and can only help save lives.
The present licensing system in QLD is a joke pay your money and dont go to sleep during the lectures and you are practically guaranteed a license.
Wonder if anyone has ever been knocked back on a license?
Cheers
Ray

[finga]

I love this bit.....

The department said the higher fees were needed to curb a surge in boating injuries.
While the department's analysis found boating deaths had declined in the past decade, injuries had surged.
The BIAV dismissed the department's injury analysis, citing a 2009-10 Monash University Injury Research Institute report that found boating injury rates were lower than injury rates for dancing and golf.
Country Alliance spokesman Neil Jenkins said the Government's argument was flawed.
"It seems to be the case of an expensive solution looking for a problem," Mr Jenkins said.
A BIAV analysis found the department had included many cases of non-boating injuries in its safety analysis, including one case of a body-boarder being swept out to sea.
One of the key reports cited by the department to back its case stated: "Activities covered by this report include recreational boating, water skiing, PWC (or jet ski) riding, rowing, canoeing, kayaking, sailing, rafting and kite surfing.
Scuba diving and snorkelling were included as it is not known whether boats were involved in the activity."


What a crock of crap. The study has been done and boating is safer then been a pedestrian.
http://www.nmsc.gov.au/documents/Inj...Web_Sept05.pdf


It's a money making racket. Nothing else.
If they're fairdinkum about peoples safety why don't they fix the bloody roads, Police the road rules (read the statistics in that report) and put a curb on crime.
I saw on telly just last night....a girl blowing over 0.8 getting a $700 fine and disqualified for 12 months.
What's the penalty a person would get if they've been convicted of drink driving 3 times??
Compare that to someone setting up a camp without authority and copping a $122 fine or the violet offender who left a vehicle standing (boating rules??) who copped a $122 fine as well


In that second link there is a list of offences and penalties. Isn't the 6kt rule for 30 metres (not 50m) from a moored vessel or shore or person in the water??
leave or failure to store fishing equipment.....what does that mean??? What ever it is it'll cop $122 fine

[deckie]

Thats the beauty of statistics in the hands of public servants with an agenda...why bother using them as intended when its far more convenient to decide what you want first, then massage them so they support it.

[netmaker]

The present licensing system in QLD is a joke pay your money and dont go to sleep during the lectures and you are practically guaranteed a license.
Wonder if anyone has ever been knocked back on a license?

gotta disagree with ya ray. reckon you could fall asleep and still pass. i remember when i did mine that you get to mark your own test. wtf???? my mates wife figured she might as well get one too. knew next to nothing about boating and passed with flying colours. its a bad joke and the govt should be dragged over the coals every time a novice gets into trouble. look at the extra requirements for a drivers licence these days. at least in a road accident you have a likely chance of speedy assistance and a very unlikely chance of drowning. and as for bigger fines - bring em on. do the right thing and it dont matter how big it is. and if the increased licencing fees are due to increased hands on tuition during the process, so much the better.
my 2 cents.

[Fed]

I'm betting NSW is in for a shake up soon, they've just combined the RTA with the MSB.
On the upside if they get photo boat licenses then most of the hairybacked jetskiers will disappear.

[Jarrah Jack]

The Victorian increases are absurd. The liberals brought this in without saying anything in the run up to the election. They do it because they think they can get away with it and probably will.

Its just a straight out tax grab and as already suggested other states treasury departments will be taking note.

[Stonkered]

"an annual $30.60 renewal fee"

Can I operate a boat in Victoria with my Queensland boat licence? It is my understanding that I can..... with no annual renewal fee.....

Victorian boaties are copping it up the @$%^ already from local councils are their "ramp fees"

[Stuart]

Australia’s current crop of crap…ops I mean politicians both state and federal have lost sight of the very people they are meant to, sworn to serve. Yet they lie through their teeth while in secret dark places where they do deals with the communist party i.e. greens. These very low life’s will do and say anything to win government then screw the very people they asked to vote for them, seems nuts to me but it happens every election. Yet come the next election they will do it all again and the sheeple will forget the last election when we all got screwed/lied to. Newman will do the same I have no doubt about it. Anna Bligh will crap on and screw us as she has done for years then retire on the very money she robbed from us. I was under the impression/ delusion that leaders are to inspire and lead but as I said I was delusional. These vipers will stop at nothing to stay or win power even at the total expense of the nation or state. State and federal have utterly deflated Australians outlook on there own futures and caused much distress just so they can stay in power due to the back room deal done with there green masters. I have had enough of having my lifestyle taken away because some green politician who has never even visited the very areas they want close to all forms of fishing. Most all of these green nuts are from city electorates but they all have the answers to the worlds problems, crazy. Its going to get to a point where filling the boat up with fuel will be a thing of the past. Boat rego keeps going up and what do we see in return for that, bugger all.

[Jarrah Jack]

I just did a check and it seems that license fees are only going up in line with the CPI. Fines don't matter as much because if you don't break the law you don't have to pay them. Time will tell I suppose.

[lucee81]

I love this bit.....

The department said the higher fees were needed to curb a surge in boating injuries.
While the department's analysis found boating deaths had declined in the past decade, injuries had surged.
The BIAV dismissed the department's injury analysis, citing a 2009-10 Monash University Injury Research Institute report that found boating injury rates were lower than injury rates for dancing and golf.
Country Alliance spokesman Neil Jenkins said the Government's argument was flawed.
"It seems to be the case of an expensive solution looking for a problem," Mr Jenkins said.
A BIAV analysis found the department had included many cases of non-boating injuries in its safety analysis, including one case of a body-boarder being swept out to sea.
One of the key reports cited by the department to back its case stated: "Activities covered by this report include recreational boating, water skiing, PWC (or jet ski) riding, rowing, canoeing, kayaking, sailing, rafting and kite surfing.
Scuba diving and snorkelling were included as it is not known whether boats were involved in the activity."


What a crock of crap. The study has been done and boating is safer then been a pedestrian.
http://www.nmsc.gov.au/documents/Inj...Web_Sept05.pdf


It's a money making racket. Nothing else.
If they're fairdinkum about peoples safety why don't they fix the bloody roads, Police the road rules (read the statistics in that report) and put a curb on crime.
I saw on telly just last night....a girl blowing over 0.8 getting a $700 fine and disqualified for 12 months.
What's the penalty a person would get if they've been convicted of drink driving 3 times??
Compare that to someone setting up a camp without authority and copping a $122 fine or the violet offender who left a vehicle standing (boating rules??) who copped a $122 fine as well


In that second link there is a list of offences and penalties. Isn't the 6kt rule for 30 metres (not 50m) from a moored vessel or shore or person in the water??
leave or failure to store fishing equipment.....what does that mean??? What ever it is it'll cop $122 fine

Had a quick look... the study is from 2009 - 2003 however not published until 2005
Something has to pay for this complete waste of time management in the gov so why not hit the boaties etc. in essence is this report not meant to help us be safe... absolute load of crap.

I dont really care how big the fines are as i try to make sure that my boat has the required safety gear etc on board but putting up the prices of rego etc is nothing more than a cash grab... so much for being Australian when a bbq and ski down the local dam is now going to cost $1181.00 a year just to register your boat. (this is before insurance, fuel, and all other associated costs.) boating really is only for the rich.... It wont be long before all other states think its a great idea and get onboard...

ON-the-spot fines will rise by up to 316 per cent. So for all the business owners out there which one of you would survive if you inflated your prices by this much??

Rant over


Lucas