Cooper tyres

[NAGG]

Most of the driving I do is highway with quite a few long 2000km plus runs ....... so road performance is paramount. Then I do regular runs on dirt / rocky roads - with the odd run on sandstone fire trails ........ but its mostly day to day / hwy stuff

Chris

[Steve B]

Chris, I dont know whether I showed you my Coopers ATR on the Triton, but they have chips out of the tread everywhere. you know where I travel, bugger all off road, and did 1 trip to birdsville. They were brand new when I bought the car. Put about 35 K on it now, and still have about 1/2 tread left. I find they are terrible in the mud for grip, but OK on road.

I would never get them again...I am pretty pi$$ed off about all the chips out of the tread..in particular the edges.

My pick, its a roughy...but cheap. Merit All country....the local tyrepower fellla put me onto them with my Jackaroo. got about 70000 out of a set, good tread pattern, quiet, great in mud and sand..seemed similar to Wranglers (which I also had and liked..but found they wore quick)

Paid about $160 each I think....goooood value IMHO

Cheers Steve

[NAGG]

Chris, I dont know whether I showed you my Coopers ATR on the Triton, but they have chips out of the tread everywhere. you know where I travel, bugger all off road, and did 1 trip to birdsville. They were brand new when I bought the car. Put about 35 K on it now, and still have about 1/2 tread left. I find they are terrible in the mud for grip, but OK on road.

I would never get them again...I am pretty pi$$ed off about all the chips out of the tread..in particular the edges.

My pick, its a roughy...but cheap. Merit All country....the local tyrepower fellla put me onto them with my Jackaroo. got about 70000 out of a set, good tread pattern, quiet, great in mud and sand..seemed similar to Wranglers (which I also had and liked..but found they wore quick)

Paid about $160 each I think....goooood value IMHO

Cheers Steve

Thanks Steve

I did have a sneaky peek when we were up at Curtis ...... I just forgot to ask you about them - I thought you may have chewed them

up on the birdsville trip.

I'm pretty convinced that car set up and driving style has a lot to do with how long a tyre will last .......... I just want to know how some people say they get 100-120K out of a set of tyres ? ........ not that I expect that (80K is good considering the type of driving I do )....... anyhow thanks for the heads up

Chris

[finga]

Easy solution Chris. Just get a new car. They come with new tyres now-a-days.
Save all the head-aches.

So all the 'best in the world for a 4wd' tyres mentioned . Where are they all made?

[Crestcutter]

Majority are made in asia scotty, including some coopers as well.

[NAGG]

Easy solution Chris. Just get a new car. They come with new tyres now-a-days.
Save all the head-aches.

So all the 'best in the world for a 4wd' tyres mentioned . Where are they all made?

thinking about the new car too - but probably not till the second half of next year ........... part of the reason why I dont want to spend the big bucks on a set of Wranglers

Chris

[BenDover]

A good point Steve B just made, is that he does bugger all offroad. And yet they are still chipped and falling apart. When people see coopers all warn and chipped and cracked. They always think they must be used under extremely hard offroad conditions (that they claim they are designed for). But after my mate went through 4 of them on a cape trip, and looking at my neighbors ones. Lugs are missing, they are cracked, 1 is warped, its sooo bad that the steel is hanging out of the tyre and these things do not go offroad much either. 95% on road. They are just complete garbage... Yet there is some guy saying how coopers have been around for 20 years and america's number 1 4x4 tyre.

I should add that maybe all coopers arent bad, the ones im talking about are the stt.

[tunaticer]

I whacked a set of Toyo Open Country tyres in my cruiser about 30 000km before I sold it to fishraider2. They were a good tyre for your intentions Chris and were not badly priced, not the cheapest but not mid range in price either. Fishraider2 might still have them on the cruiser, I don't know.

[Apollo]

Chris

I have Bridgestone Dueller M&S on my Courier. They are coming up to 80000km with about 5000km still to go. These are on standard rims. I bought the ute with 40000km on it and so the 40000km I have added have been a mix of tar, dirt roads, sand, mud. towing and paddock, with about 85% tar. They have worn fairly evenly and have surprised me with their ability to hang onto most surfaces. I haven't had a puncture or tyre damage in that time and some of the roads I travel on are pretty rocky.

I know I am up for a new set sometime early next year and I definately be considering these again.

Cheers
Steve

[Wet Deck]

Yep, like I mentioned in earlier thread, I put 5 Cooper ST's on ready for a 4 week cape York trip. I had them fitted 6 weeks before departure and they chipped surverely before I even left home. Back to the tyre shop where I purchased them and Cooper swapped all tyres including spare, they had only done about 2000k on the road. The new ones held together a lot better but still chipped with a couple of cracks around lugs, from memory 1 lug broke off. I rotated and balanced all 5 tyres every 10000k and got 128,000k out of them.

When you are up the cape you can't help but check out other peoples set ups and the gear they use, most locals up there use Wranglers but they are on the dirt most of the time, BFG's A/T seem to be the next popular up there so I thought I'll give them ago. Most of my cars km's are on the road but normally head to the cape once a year plus a couple trips to Moreton and so far the BFG's have done just over 70,000km and still have reason amount of tread left and wearing well, probably get around 95-100,000km out of the 5 tyres by rotating every 10,000k.

I researched tyres on 4WD forums, after doing that I was more confused but found the reports on Cooper tyres to be very inconsistent. Incidentally the Coopers I had where made in Mexico, you just wonder about the quality control in these places??

Mick

[Crestcutter]

When i worked for Goodyear/ Dunlop they claimed that Asia was under strict policy to comply with what Goodyear/Dunlop wanted.But i can tell you that Wrangler silent armours were made both in the states and in Asia. The ones from the states were a fantastic soft rubber compound tyre that peeps were getting 80 thousand plus out of. The ones from Asia were as hard as a rock and i had irate customers coming back after only 10 thousand k's done. Try explaining that one to a customer. In the end i refused to sell the asian made ones.

[Steve B]

I whacked a set of Toyo Open Country tyres in my cruiser about 30 000km before I sold it to fishraider2. They were a good tyre for your intentions Chris and were not badly priced, not the cheapest but not mid range in price either. Fishraider2 might still have them on the cruiser, I don't know.

Jack,

I put a set of these on the missus's outlander. I am very impressed with them for the price too. I think about $200 each??? but thats on a soccer mum car too..not sure what a Prado size would cost. I tested them in the same bog hole and a few hill climbs on my property...comparing it to the coopers on the triton, and it went well. If it wasn't for the lack of clearance, I would say the outlander did a better job than the triton...deffinately grip wise the Toyo's smashed the coopers....just a little backyard comparison.

For the record, the wife wasn't happy when her car came home covered in mud either!!!


Cheers Steve

[tunaticer]

Jack,

I put a set of these on the missus's outlander. I am very impressed with them for the price too. I think about $200 each??? but thats on a soccer mum car too..not sure what a Prado size would cost. I tested them in the same bog hole and a few hill climbs on my property...comparing it to the coopers on the triton, and it went well. If it wasn't for the lack of clearance, I would say the outlander did a better job than the triton...deffinately grip wise the Toyo's smashed the coopers....just a little backyard comparison.

For the record, the wife wasn't happy when her car came home covered in mud either!!!


Cheers Steve

I think from memory Steve the Landcruiser toyo's came in at $217 each.

[NAGG]

When i worked for Goodyear/ Dunlop they claimed that Asia was under strict policy to comply with what Goodyear/Dunlop wanted.But i can tell you that Wrangler silent armours were made both in the states and in Asia. The ones from the states were a fantastic soft rubber compound tyre that peeps were getting 80 thousand plus out of. The ones from Asia were as hard as a rock and i had irate customers coming back after only 10 thousand k's done. Try explaining that one to a customer. In the end i refused to sell the asian made ones.

no doubt ...... we have several plants in Oz and they often run using different sources of raw materials ............ let alone different procedures - Part of the reason I went with the wranglers was they they came out of the US

Chris

[j_man_84]

Well tyres would have to be one of the most debatable topics in the way of 4wding thats for sure, speaking of coopers anyone running the new cooper at3's? or know someone who has them? claiming to be 33% stronger with new tread pattern and the 265/70/16 size which i run comes as a 10ply tyre. Interested to hear feedback from these. cheers