Ok. My anchor winch didn't want to co-operate after 3 years or so. 1st problem was the cable had degraded to a point i needed it replace and now the free fall function is bugger.
I opened her up and now she's fine. Except no free fall. I may be getting old but hauling a boat anchor in 10 meters of water or so is tuff work. This is with 12mm nylon rope. God knows how you would do it with 8mm or 6mm or 10 mm rope.
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Looking at my options. There is the standard replacement of $550 - Same model or a drum unit which is $1100 for 600watts or $1400 for $1400 25Meters per Minute or the Expensive stuff at $2000???
I was thinking X wich too?? Mick Winch. ( so many on the market too. ) I think we are paying just for the motor????? Can that motor be that expensive? Comon guys it's a 12 Volt motor with a IP rating????? I'm sure finga can knock one up for less than $100 bucks
Mate my Chinese one is getting tired. It still works ok but its getting slower. The freefall introduces a clutch and my thought is that it might be weaker. I have free fall and it's very convenient. A mate just got a profish and it's very nice. It's not freefall but still seems to go down reasonably quickly. Cheers
Boat: Seafarer Vagabond
Live: Great South East....love Moreton Bay fishing
If you want one the same style as the one you've got now then the lewmar are good and well priced...http://www.mauriprosailing.com/Merch...y_Code=LEWPROW
The X winch made with the help of HH565 on here is worth considering. I see there is a thread up about it now.
Hope that helps Tim.
Just fitted an X Winch and very impressed with build quality
Member here HH565 Spiro is a director and the man to speak to.
Also a gentleman who backs his product with Gr8 service .
Will place a post in boating that was posted by X winch on another froum!!
Regards Frank
The Clutch mechanism is bent i think. The last time i went out it engaged freefall but will not reengage. I took out the free fall function and it's just power down and up. Slow but better then a hand job. Maybe i can get the deckie to do some work next time and pull the anchor up.
I can never go back to the old way of hand pulling the anchor. It felt like i was hauling in a big rock against the current. The Bouy is not an option as i have had it stick on the propella once.
I may anchor up and down a dozen times per outing.
John. Can you pm a price as i can't find it anywhere online. I know you pay for what you get
give em a call 0417125546 theres a few models !
ummmm, O.K....Originally Posted by timddo
Also try ##############.com.au
They do a 1000W drum winch for $1400 which is probably the best price around for a quality drum winch. $1100 for a 600W version.
Cheers
Edit: just realised that you were most likely referring to the lonestar winch in your initial post (at $1100 and $1400). The cheaper winch you referred to I assume is a South Pacific and if the one you have has served you well then perhaps replacing with the same is the logical and economical approach?
Personally I like the concept of the lonestar winch because the owner of the business is putting the winches out there at the price that I personally think drum winches should be sold for. They are simple to produce by comparison to capstan style winches so on those grounds alone I believe they should be quite a bit cheaper and if not then you are paying too much for what you are getting.
My opinion and I'm entitled to it
Choose carefully, there are lots of Chinese imports being sold in Australia by people that know very little more about the product than what the OEM has told them. In some cases specs and capabilities are being well overstated.
Could not agree more. X-winch, Lonestar, Stress-free, Micks Winch etc etc etc all need to be independently assessed to verify the veracity of the manufacturers claims. A good winch shoot-out article in a boating mag would be excellent. No doubt they are all parts essentially domiciled in China.
An independent test, via a media not paid sponsorship/advertising by any winch manufacturers should enable a level playing field.
Seems like Choice magazine should get into the boating assessment market...
Cheers
I have a south pacific 710s 300 watts. It's still working. Just the freefall is not working. Yes was taking about lone star but may have another supplier. Will hear from tomorrow. I think all drums are made in china. Only the motor is made somewhere else .
“No doubt they are all parts essentially domiciled in China.” Unless you know this to be fact and can provide evidence to support, it would be wise for you to publicly retract the statement!
Out of the 4 products you mention, 3 are from Australian designers/manufacturers, the other is an imported product from China. Also if you had bothered to do any homework you would know that this ‘import’ has been sold by a number of companies in Australia for quite some time and at similar pricing levels and therefore price barrier break throughs’ you have indicated on this and other forums are in fact non-existent.
That aside, when considering any imported product irrespective of what it may be, the following should always be in the back of your mind.
How much does the seller really know about the product they are importing/selling?
Have they visited the OEM, taken a factory tour and attended specialist training?
Are they fully aware of the advantages, disadvantages and limitations of the product they are selling?
Have they witnessed the engineering calculations from which the specifications and stated capabilities of the product are derived?
Have they performed their own engineering calculations to confirm the data they present to their potential customers is in fact correct? Are they even capable of doing this?
Have they confirmed the materials and components used to manufacture the product are in fact as claimed by the OEM?
In the case of winches, do they have a solid understanding of motor, gearbox and winch/hoist technology?
Are they able to properly perform warranty assessments (mechanical and electrical) and do they keep parts locally?
In terms of pricing, as it seems this is most important to you, it is fact that all 3 above-mentioned Australian designers/manufacturers can easily produce a product to match the performance and beat the price of the imported drum winches. The reason they do not do that is because their focus is on producing a high quality product and one that delivers consistent performance and long term reliability.
As far as independent assessments go, you only have to look at the products to see the very obvious differences in quality and strength. If they are not immediately apparent, then you really have no clue what you're looking at.
Not true Timddo, you certainly don't need a passport to visit the manufacturer of the drums on my winches.
It's quite obvious from this and above posts that you are passionate of the product you deliver HH565L
Seems a general consensus that when a barrel winch is detected automatically china comes to mind!
Guys you get what you pay for simple as that !!
Im definately more than happy with mine
Regards Frank
boating forums seem to do a pretty fair job of sorting out the dodgy operators ,when the moderators dont delete posts that is.
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