Has anyone used/ got/ got info on the simrad NSS touchscreens?
Herd they are basically Lowrance!? So they must run navionics? Any info on them would be great.
Herd alot of good things about the garmin 750.
Was thinking about getting the Garmin 750S (with sounder), as I am thinking it would be a good back up to the FF60? Is this a good idea or not really?
Tight lines.
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Hi Waterbuoy,
The Simrad NSS range is about to add a completely new dimension to trailer boat electronics.
The existing Simrad NSO and NSE models have been aimed at the high end market, especially for yachting.
The NSO and NSE have many features essential to yachting, but not necessary for trailer boat fishing - that makes them more expensive and that's why you don't often see Simrad in recreational boating, until now.
The NSS has been aimed at the upper level of trailer boat fishing and is the next step up from Lowrance HDS.
The usability of the screen is amazing. It has been based on smart technology like the Apple Ipad / Iphone. This gives you touch technology, flick of fingers to zoom etc, one touch to enter waypoints, scroll accross screen with finger - not cursor etc etc etc.
The processor is a lot quicker than the Lowrance HDS
Navico own Simrad, as well as Lowrance & B&G. (Note, these are the three brands now available through Navico - Navman, Northstar and Eagle are now obsolete)
Yes, Navionics charts (including Platinum Charts) are used with Simrad.
The best feature?
GLASS SCREEN.
That way, no scratches like the composite screens when touched or cleaned.
They will interface with Lowrance HDS units via Ethernet / NMEA 2000.
All lowrance accessories will work on Simrad, including Radar, Structure Scan, Sonic Hun, Fuel Flow, Engine Management etc.
Simrad have autopilot as well, so they can be easily interfaced.
Broadband Sounder moduke "2"can be fitted to give 4kw sounding ability!
You can use BEP C-Zone accessories and can turn on/off Nav lights, cabin lights etc from your sounder.
The screens are easy to use and understand, very bright, excellent daylight viewing and waterproof.
http://www.simrad-yachting.com.au/Pr...shfinding/NSS/
Yeah, I like them.
Cheers
Pete
Cheers Pete.
Anyone know what the warrenties are like on the Garmin and the Simrad? What shop/s would stock these (SEQ)?
Also i've read on the forum about people having after purchase trouble with the Lowrance, would this carry onto the Simrad?
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Hey Waterboy, Well I know very little about the Simrad but own a Garmin 750 I have owned and used several different brands and types of gps units and would have to say this ticks all the boxes for me as a recreational fisher inshore and offshore. No more checking a chart or book if I am not shore of the area and total confidence navigating with it day or night. It has excellent clarity day or night and I also have the homeport feature on my home computer which again I enjoy using to forward plan a trip add or remove waypoints and marks and I also created the green zones in green on the map.
Again for me the unit size the $$$ and all the above made the decission.
Mark
G'day again Waterbuoy,
I can supply both brands if needed.
Cheers
Pete
Hmm ive heard that the new NSS dont talk to C-Zone unless you supply a NSE Screen ? is this True
Joe
Originally Posted by Grand_Marlin
Last edited by battler1; 13-07-2011 at 03:07 PM. Reason: beter info
Here is some info I have sourced to date.
1# Still waiting availability. Experienced the Navico demo boat and the demo unit software was obviously a pre release version. At the moment Garmin has the edge as the Simrad appears to be a work in progress at this stage.
Both have a 2 year warranty.
2# It is Lowrance in Simrad clothes. It is owned by the same company that owns Lowrance. These are negatives in my opinion.
I think the Simrad is still green so will have to wait for more feed back/ info. But the garmin does seem strong.
But time is on my side until then.
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Not true.
The NSS talks to C Zone.
BEP and Navico had working displays of this at Sanctury Cove Boat Show
Cheers
Pete
G'day Waterbuoy,
Sounds like you have already talked yourself out of a Simrad
Just a few notes on comments made / questions asked.
Both the Garmin and Simrad are great units.
Comparing the Garmin 750s and the Simrad NSS8 is not a direct comparison. Step the Garmin up a level to the 5008 and you nearly have a level playing field.
The Simrad has more features available such as Broadband Sounder BSM 2 (3kw performance), Structure Scan and Sonic Hub that can be added, as well as the awesome ability for the C-Zone compatibilty.
For those who don'tknow, C-Zone is an electronic switching setup by BEP. This enables you to switch on / off any accessory on your boat, including your bilge pumps, bait tank pump, cabin lights, nav lights etc etc etc.
C-Zone controllers are purchased as an accessory, bu tthe software is already in the Simrad.
No switch panels required again!
Navico does own Lowrance and Simrad. Simrad has been around for many years before Navico acquired it. Until the NSS range, Simrad had aimed their NSE & NSO models at Pro Fishing and Top Level Yachting, with Furuno Navnet and Raymarine C / E Series as it's competitors.
The NSS has brought the Simrad quality to a unit designed specifically for fishermen.
As the NSS does not have the Yachting features of the NSE and NSO, the price is a lot cheaper.
Some of the criticism levelled at Lowrance / Navico on this forum is justified, much of it is not. I am not even going to start this arguement again, just keep an open mind.
The Simrad is far from "green" as far as a new unit goes.
The technology has been tried and tested over many years, again I say that the reason it is only just coming into view of trailer boat owners is because their other models have been aimed at different markets and the price for the NSE & NSO models has been above what many would consider justifiable on a trailer boat. Hence why you rarely see Furuno Navnet and Raymarine E Series on trailer boats for the same reason.
The Simrad has a glass screen, not composite, so more resistant to scratching.
The Simrad has both buttons and touch abaility for most major functions.
The Warranty on Garmin is 2 years.
The Warranty on Simrad is 2 years + the 3 year service warranty that allows you to upgrade your unit at a reduced price should it fail outside the 2 year warranty period.
Hope this helps a bit more.
Cheers
Pete
G'day Guys,
My NSS8 arrived today if anyone wants to have a look at the new units.
Cheers
Pete
I should have said the NSS is a bit green, in the sense that not many people know much about em. I can't decide now, maybe I will have to tea some thing up Grand Marlin??? A negitive I have found on the garmin touch is on utube. The 740 is the American equivellent of our 750 touchscreen. Screen malfuctioning under rain conditions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QGRpyrVHGg
Thanks again for the wealth of knowledge. Cheers and keep any updates coming.
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HMMM are you 100% sure as i know there's a huge Cat going to Sydney Boat Show from Goldcoast & they have 2 x NSE screens Behind dash to make all the NSS work with C-ZONE .
Joe
G'day Joe,
I spoke to Navico Engineers re: the boat in question.
As you know, there are three levels in the Simrad range, from top to bottom they are NSO, NSE and NSS.
The boat you are referring to has the top of the line NSO screens on it.
The NSO system was waiting for a software update to run the Czone gear.
The NSE and NSS units are fully compatible with Czone.
There were two NSE units mounted temporarily on the bulkhead just to run the Czone until the software for NSO is released.
They are intending to put the software in the NSO at the Sydney Boat Show.
This boat did not have NSS screens fitted to it.
Cheers
Pete
I have just fitted a Simrad NSS7 to my boat I already have a Garmin 750S the Simrad has a lot betAttachment 70177ter sounder than the Garmin. The GPS on both is about the same the Simrad is a bit quicker.
If I had to pick the best I would go with the Simrad.Attachment 70176
i fish out of a boat of a mate of mines who has a simrad in it and its a great unit. he is waiting on a ns11 now which will be interesting to see as there are meant to be some improvments
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