I walked the length of the net while it was up on the sand, i forgot to mention there was one sandie in the net also. I don't like this either as it is my backyard also, but in saying that i understand these guys are just trying to earn a dollar. The net is around 100 mtrs long, the bycatch was next to nothing, not one snapper or tailor.
Marty.
Well in our case down here the bycatch is tons of Mulloway, also Bream.
Also ask yourself why the mullet are leaving the estuaries and going to sea in schools. Breeding, full of roe. What you are doing is hitting the species at the most vunerable stage.
Sorry taking fish full of roe of any species, let alone to do it on an annual basis is not right.
Trev
Fish for the future, enjoy the present but think of your children.
its the roe that they want, and since there is limited bycatch and mullet is not targeted (a few do ) by many rec fishes I dont have a problem with it, now Jew thats another story!!Originally Posted by mylestom
If price is an indication with all the years that they have been caught this way, seems to be plenty around still.cheers
Just like the net full of whiting on the Sandy Cape thread. Didnt see any mullet at all. If you take one species out of the bigger environmental picture the whole thing falls down. I fish for recreation and i would like to catch something now and then!
I'm assuming that if they're shooting nets now and pulling good hauls their quota's should be met quickly and they won't be seen again until next season?? WRONG...and this is what ticks me off about these guys.
I think it stinks and I'm not going to support it just because it's gone on for decades. The hauling of Mullet like this seriously impacts the rec fishos chances of catching a Tailor, Jew and other predatory species that follow the Mullet schools. I wonder how many will be bitching and complaining a month or two from now that we had shocking Tailor season when these guys continue to haul. What ticks me off is that when they reach their allowable quota do you really think they just stop? They also have black market, 'bycatch' and other non-regulated species which they can rape and pillage. Just look back to last year when they ran a shot around a massive school of Permit off Noosa's North Shore, where's the ethics in that? They may say "We thought they were Mullet before shooting the nets" but if this was the case WHY DIDN'T THEY LET THE LIVE ONE'S GO?? http://fishingworld.com.au/news/permit-massacre
Go fishing Noosa North Shore (or any other location) when the netters are in full swing and experience how it seriously impacts the rec fishery if you don't believe me. I for one would not spend the dollars on Fuel, beach permit, ferry fees, bait etc trying to drown beach worms if I know they are up there because I have tried in vane to many times following their beach pilfering sessions!!
Buy them out, compensate them 'FAIRLY' and let's protect the fishery for future generations.
I cannot see the point of all the whinging here! Its obviously sustainable, as mentioned its been going on for decades, and as witnessed little by catch. they were there again today and I spoke to one old guy who gets some off them every year for bait. He said the same thing.
The tailor fishing along the front at Redcliffe is great at the moment, with the netters there, they are smashing bait schools, hitting bottom and retrieved baits and Im getting plenty of them as by catch when chasing snapper.
This selective netting is NOT messing up the fishing. I think its greedy to suggest they cant do this, and I'm arec fisher only. Im against the rape and pillage of fisheries, but I dont think this is. As mentioned where else does all the crab bait and mullet bait come from that REC fishos buy! Its hypocrisy to scream about netting if you buy bait, INCLUDING PILLIES!
Fair Go
Flatzie
The problem is that it not selective, it the same fellows coming down here year after year, taking everything. No proper identification on vehicles, unregistered motorbikes, non rwc vehicles,trailers and taking the other species as well. Also camping and driving on dunes, parking and camping in no parking and no camping areas, the list just goes on and on. The you get the physical threats to locals, both to the elderly and women as well. People cannot under any instance condone this sort of behaviour.
The fishing here goes completly slack once they have been through.
Lot of photos of the non compliance, complaints to Fisheries, Police and RTA and what happens nothing. This is not sustainable fishing. This is I can do what I want, when I want and you can all go and get stuffed attitude.
The sooner that they are bought to justice the better, but how often do we see them flaunt the regulations of various levels of Government and nothing is done. Eventually something will happen that will wake up a few eyes, but hopefully no one has to suffer because of the current attitude, Its alright they are allowed to do and say whatever they like.
Me just had a gutful over a lot of years.
Trev
Trev
Fish for the future, enjoy the present but think of your children.
as said earlier this is a common activity happens everywhere every year. Know a fella who was one of the mullet crew. He said most of the catch would be sold to a pro crabber at scarby if not morgans. I personally dont like netters but then again if it is legit and i was getting a cut i wouldn't complain.
For goodness sake this post suggests these guys are the reason for everything going wrong in the world and society. Theres no sand dunes at Redcliffe! You cant blanket one group of people with everything thats ever been done wrong by Pro fishos over 40 years. This is utterly over reacting. These people have alegal right to fish for mullet, just as rec fishos have to fish as well. The old salts who live along the foreshore at Redcliffe know these people, they are not rapers and pillagers, Vikings, hooligans or a threat to women and children. They are people just like you and me eeking out a living to feed their families and pay the rent or the mortgage.
If uou have a problem then you have to change legislation, not villify people making a living within the law!
Flatzie
Just a few pics from the family collection..............
I remember the net fishermen on the Gold Coast.
They'd sell a few fish cheap on the beach also.
The bycatch in one is jelly fish...
randell
Flatzie,
My comments were directed at the what those Qld netters do and have done over the last two years in our area. Which to clear the air is South of Coffs Harbour. Didn't know that I wasn't allowed to post actual recent data in my and others in our locality about the Qld Netters.
People, whether RecFisher, Pro Netters must abide by the regulations, they should not abuse or threaten anyone, especially Elderley or women. These are very recent facts.
Sorry if I offended anyone.
Trev
Fish for the future, enjoy the present but think of your children.
you cant blame a whole industry because of a few doing the wrong thing , Im a rec fisher only and I see alot(rec fishers) doing the wrong thing , does that mean we are all bad , whose side are you on , for me it responsible fishing from all sectors
Think . cheers alex. Ps Suttons beach is a long way from Coffs so why are you giving them flak
But the netters down here are the same Queensland ones you get up there, that is my case in point. Facts often get in the way of a good story. They might behave up there but down here, just talk to some of the people that they have physically threatned. Yes I do have photo's too of their vehicles with some of their illegal activities, that was one of the reasons for the threats. A ladies in her sixties was abused when she asked them to stop speeding on the beach in the closed to vehicular traffic area. These are facts, the netters were from Queensland. I don't believe that their behaviour can be excused by anyone.
We live here and see their actions, they speak louder than words, it is up to them to improve themselves to gain respect.
Trev
Fish for the future, enjoy the present but think of your children.
there is only a small area the can net at margate due to the reefs located not far offshore they normally are no more than a couple of hundred yards off shore and the area they net they are more likely to get swimmers than fish as it is suttons beach yes it is ripe all throughout the different states but on redcliffe i have only ever seen them net this one area for mullet,
However in saying that there was an incident a few years ago further along the beach in late august early september when the summer whiting start to run where a lot of fisherman were getting a few nice tings off the beach the netters came down ran the nets around them and took the lot now that is wrong if the want to do that then they should do it at night when nobody s fishing
lol, don't worry robersl, they do that as well.........
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