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    Queensland Recreational Fisheries 2011 and beyond.

    Our fishery is not about now or tomorrow, it is about forever.

    A vision for our fishery must entail its circumstance long after our generation has passed.

    A management regime’ must be in place now so that the long term sustainability and indeed, the enhancement of the fishery, is to be successful.

    Current Commercial, Charter and Recreational practices need to be re-defined. We must look seriously at the big picture.

    Australia currently stands in an enviable position of fishery stocks and legislation. We need to visualize ourselves as the Food Bowl of the World. Our fishery stocks need to be complimented with our Land Based food production and in particular, land based agricultural practices. Australia is a minnow in the world food production both land based and marine, but this can be turned around with vision, enterprise, incentive and sound scientific research and development.

    There are many agendas being promoted by various groups to Government and private enterprise, but none cuts more deeply into the Australian way of life than Fishing. Recreational Fishing in particular touches first hand, more Australians than any other activity , including the work environment. The consumption of fish and related marine foods is deeply embedded in our Culture and is in essence, an every day part of our lives.

    With the combined economic input to our State and Federal Governments coffers from Commercial, Charter and Recreational Fishing exceeding $10 Billion yearly, it would seem a rational idea to focus on this as a way forward for not only the country, but its people.

    Stepping aside from the economic impacts, the health and well-being, social interaction and educational areas are not well defined but are identified. It is understood that the health aspects of fishing and consumption of fish is of great importance. Further, educational and social interaction aspects of fishing ( recreational ), cannot be measured, but is widely recognized as a building block in the development of the family unit and a basis for peer group acceptance and involvement.

    In Queensland, Recreational Fishing is under the control of the Department of Primary Industries. This has to change. The question has to be asked and answered, can we separate commercial, charter and recreational fishing ? Recreational fishing is a component of Tourism, as is Charter Fishing and as such deserves its place in that portfolio. Can current legislation governing commercial fishing and charter & recreational fishing be separated ?


    1. An expanded and well managed commercial fishery can enhance the reputation of Australian seafood both here and overseas. The benefits of a robust and sustainable commercial fishery will outweigh any initial limitations, regulation changes or licence streamlining. Australia can lead the world in best practice commercial fishing if current and future Governments acknowledge the importance of this essential food source and pro-actively support and encourage the private sector with incentives and resources.

    Relatively economical strategies like, marine artificial reefs and FAD’s that are commercial fishing specific can be adopted with the use of overseas information and research data. Pelagic fish species, Scallops, Abalone and Demersal species can all be successfully harvested by adopting these methods. There is more than enough evidence, world wide, to promote this type of harvesting without impacting on established wild stocks. The increasing of habitat to naturally occurring substrates and or deploying new ones, increases the bio-mass of the targeted species.

    A tariff on whole imported seafoods will not only assist our industry, but provide better outcomes for our health. At the very least, more stringent production regulations be adopted to protect Australians health and livelihoods.

    2. The Charter industry requires streamlining with sustainable fishing and business’s in mind. With the Charter Operators moving under the Tourism umbrella, realistic business practices and operations will evolve and this in turn will provide a secure industry for the future.

    A limiting in the size of Charter vessels is a way forward that provides a reduction of area specific impact, reduced overhead costs and a better client / business owner relationship.

    3. Recreational fishing has to be acknowledged as the premier recreational activity of Australians. Every client of a Charter is a recreational fisher. This acknowledgement has to come from both State and Federal levels of Government and all political parties. Best practice recreational fishing encompasses strong conservation standards as well as stewardship of the seas and waterways. Both Marine and Aquatic environments require politically independent management in association with the relevant Government bodies to gain the best results for the fishery and environment. The words co-management and regional management should be seriously considered.

    Recreation Fishing Havens, artificial reefs, stocked impoundments and more will see Queensland, in particular, grow in leaps and bounds on the world tourism stage. A healthy Tourism opportunity can only mean good outcomes for local communities which will pass onto the whole of the country.

    Australia has a unique opportunity to embed itself on the world food and tourism stage. With substantial investment and infrastructure programs, vigorously support by a visionary Government and an Enterprising private sector, we can stand proud and tall. The world will be beating a path to Australia’s door, looking for our crops, meats, textiles, seafood and tourism based marine and aquatic activities.

    We have all seen certain overseas countries grow rich and fat on limited and finite resources. Let us see our country grow healthy and happy on sustainable and limitless resources.

    Let us not waste this opportunity by legislating for next week or next month. Let’s put aside minority group agendas, political factions, personal profiles and knee-jerk reactions to events or circumstance. Queensland, more than ever, needs to rise from years of indecision and vision-less policy making. Queensland is by its very nature, a diverse and unique land with a plethora of landscapes and water environs as well as an immense array of wildlife. To ensure this remains, we must act now and act accordingly with vision, with passion and with knowledge.

    The unwillingness of the mind is the only handicap to a lifetime of fishing !

    Phill Kliese
    Secretary
    ECOFishers Qld.




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    well done Phill...I was tempted to hit the likes button but no..then I thought about the thanks button but once again no..there should be an "outstanding" button for that post..and every pollie and wanna be pollie should be made to read it.

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    Phill,

    A very well thought out piece indeed.

    I have to say that I have an overwhelming concern with the suggestion of a move towards 'tourism'.

    Queensland is not equipped, in a mind-set sense, to encourage and foster recreational fishing tourism.

    Other posts have better compared Queensland and the NT, for example, as evidence of this.

    I wholeheartedly agree in the concept of sustainability, but Queensland tourism has an appalling record.

    There are so many examples of business setting up and cashing in on the natural resources and beauty of this great state, and leaving it in a pathetic condition.

    If we are to truly seek the big picture, then we should consider the possibility that our state is being run into the ground by tourism, creating non-sustainable infrastructure and industry, and leaving the poor stupid taxpayer to foot the bill after the party has ended.

    I know this sounds pretty cynical, and you could well wonder whether there's some 'history' behind this - honestly there is not.

    In my mind it's well past time we had a lifestyle protection agency, as some measure against the short-sighted rape of our natural resources for a quick buck.

    Anyway, that's my 2c worth, I'm sure others have theirs.

    Thanks for reading and thanks Phill for the thread.

    Regards,

    Steve

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    Hi Phil, what's the intent of your letter? Is it a submission to parliament, a letter to your local member or a letter to the minister responsible?

    I am an ecofishers member and I'm pleased to see you letting them all know that ecofishers is still alive and well.

    Personally I don't necessarilly agree with recreational and charter angling being controlled by a tourism body but I wholeheartedly agree with angling being promoted as a legitimate passtime, as well as legitimate tourism drawcard in Queensland.

    Your comments with regards to charter boat sizes are a very good point, the days of a large charter boat smashing a bombie with 15 anglers on board should be pushed into the past, smaller boats with experienced guides and small groups of clients are the responsible way to go. Something that probably won't go down too well on here, but should be looked at in conjunction with reducing the impact of charter operations, is reducing the impact of recreational fishing by maybe lowering the bag limits even further and maybe changing limits to being possession limits in some instances. Food for thought and thanks for such a good letter on behalf of your members.

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    This statement, along with another in relation to Recreational Fishing in Queensland will be handed to the Recreational Fisheries Manager tomorrow.

    These will also be sent to various MP's in both parties and other people and groups of interest.

    I would however, like to clarify one point. The Tourism thing.

    Currently, Recreational and Charter are governed by a number of government departments.

    DEEDI
    DERM
    QPWS
    DPI&F
    MSQ

    and more.

    The " portfolio mission statement " for DPI&F is promote commercial fishing interests, hence the agenda is set and bias towards commercial sectors is entrenched.

    An interesting avenue for legislation reared it's head recently, when arti reefs for the MBMP were managed by the QPWS, which allowed the Government to side step many issues that would arise if it were managed by DPI&F. So many different departments have different powers and within the recreational fishing arena, far far too many departments have their finger in the pie.

    What I am saying by having Recreational Fishing come under the Tourism umbrella, is that legislation and management could be simplified and indeed with co-management and regional management strategies adopted, the running of recreational fishing activities, policy, research and more would be streamlined and draw more public focus.

    Recreational Fishing has more in common with Tourism ( including ECO-Tourism ), than it has with commercial fishing. We all know that Tourism claims many dollars of support from rec fishing, but does not admit this to the Government. Recreational fishing is a huge component of Tourism via Charter, Accommodation, Transport, food and beverage and more.

    Tourism currently is basically a self regulated industry with many " business 's " doing the snatch & grab. But place these in the hands of a credible co-managed authority that has members including rec fishing reps, charter and more.

    Recreational Fishing does not get promoted as it should be by the current governing body...DPI&F.

    Recreational fishing economic impacts per dollar value far out weigh those of commercial fishing, yet we are treated like poor second cousins.

    I have another thread going here abouts with a link to a report that ECOfishers was a part of, as well as many other reps. This report is a Federal Government supported strategy and should hopefully start the ball rolling to get a fair-dinkum approach to a fair-dinkum Australian activity.

    Unfortunately, politics gets in the way of good decision making, but with some vision, we can overcome that and look hard and long at the big picture.

    Hope I explained that ??????


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    Some good ideas there Phill, I think that fisheries is large enough to have its own port folio stand alone for rec, charter and commercial together. I also think it should have a large police force to maintain the rules are followed to the letter and quick, harsh penalties imposed on anyone caught breaking the rules. From my point of view, people think they can get away with bending the rules here and there or blatantly disregarding them. The fishery needs to change that mindset by policing itself much more over all areas.
    Having fished a fair bit in most states, Qld is the least inspected of all and gives rise to the thoughts that they will get away with something.
    Go fishing in Vic and you will get asked to see your catch and your fishing licence at least once a day, often times twice a day and sometimes three times. That is proactive and ppl are much less likely to try something on.

    Imagine what our roads would be like if there was no traffic police???? Now look at our fishery here.......ain't a whole lot of difference there.

    I think that 100 more inspectors in Qld with real powers would equate to maybe 20 times its cost in saving the fishery.

    I know I follow the rules and I think the rules are fair and just at the moment, I have nothing to worry about if i was inspected any time i am out on the water.
    Jack.

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    I fully support Pinhead's praise of your post Phil. Any great movement starts with a vision. I reckon you have enunciated a vision for all sectors very well.

    Part two is developing the action plan. Part three is gathering the personnel. Then roll up the sleeves and get going on Part four, the implementation.

    You have delivered Part one.

    Phil, I am the elected representative of the majority of the SE Qld charter fleet. I am very happy to be a part of this process.

    But I am really keen on "walking the walk" not just "talking the talk". To put it very bluntly, give me a call. I am happy to sit at the table on behalf of charter operators.

    Who else is coming?

    Cheers,

    Keith

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    Thanks for the explanation Phil, this vision for recreational and charter based angling could be the start of something good. Very good to see Keith's response

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    Firstly, great post and well written, hoopefully it is the catalyst for some positive change. Might seem like nit picking but just thought I should straighten you up on the regulatory bodies involved as I sure detractors will jump on any inconstancies to discredit you.
    DPI&F are no longer, they have been rolled into the mega department DEEDI- along with all other sorts of mis matching odds and sods. I think this was meant to save money and streamline red tape- of course it has had the opposite effect- onya Anna. Anyway the fisheries guys go under the sub-department Fisheries Queensland (FQ - rather appropriate) within DEEDI.
    QPWS are -to my knowledge- under the DERM banner which is a collaboration of the old EPA and NRW.

    Cheers,


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    The concepts including changing the responsibilities for the management of rec fishing & charter to another Department would need to be actioned at a "whole of Government" level- at a political level in other words. Who are you going to have this conversation with at the political level Phil? It may have to be at a higher than a mere Fisheries Minister who would be losing responsibilities from his portfolio if your vision was implemented?

    There has been strong discussion in a number of forums I have attended re: a lack of leadership in Fisheries management, unsatisfactory & underfunded stakeholder representation at all levels and how to correct this situation. Who are going to be the leaders of fishing to take us forward?

    Again, I am very supportive of your putting out in public your vision for a better deal for all our fishers, their fisheries and sustainable, scientifically robust access to these fisheries.

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    Just to make it all a little more complicated, Fisheries Qld now answers to two ministers. Tim Mulherin for the aquaculture and commercial development portions and Craig Wallace for the rest. Craig Wallace now has Main Roads, Marine Infrastructure and Fisheries.

    On a positive note Craig Wallace does appear to be listening to stakeholders a little more and not just acting on filtered advice from the Fisheries Managers. He also seems to be more aware of what is happening in fishing generally. He surprised me last week by asking prior to a meeting how my trip to the Burdekin went.Obviously he has a lot of ears out there.

    Phil, this is probably the best time for fishing to move forward. It's certainly the first time in a very long time that both the Fisheries Minister and the Shadow Cabinet Fisheries MP are both keen recreational fishers.

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    Yes Judy, interesting times indeed.

    As some of us here know, there is a QLD Recreational Fishing Strategy Plan 2009 - 2014 that is now in draft form. Stakeholder reps that contributed to that will be having a meeting with the Recreational Fishing Development Manager over the next few weeks.

    I had my meeting Thursday morning. ( On behalf of ECOFishers and Ausfish members who have shown an interest and provided input to me )

    Once all sector reps have had a meeting and provided further input, the Draft plan will be available for the public, hopefully by Christmas.

    I am keeping my fingers crossed that when this goes to the minister, he / she will look at it with the BIG PICTURE in mind. This is not time to figure out how to get votes from the rec fishos for the next election, it is about implementing strategies put forward by grass roots fishos and their representatives.

    Folks..... seriously, there has been good work and great ideas going into this plan.

    Political persuasions aside, from what I hear and see, all parties are taking a very keen interest in the Recreational Fishing ( and other recreational activities ) voices.

    The group of representatives that have had their say are from all stakeholders, including the conservation movement, who by the way, are very receptive to many ideas and ideals we recreational fishos have. We may be beating a different drum, but we are in the same band.

    When this draft plan becomes available, I urge one and all to have a read, take on board the ideas and keep in mind, this is about a long term vision for Queensland Recreational Fishery. The Draft plan will be open for discussion.

    Cheers

    Phill.
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    thanks Phill..just a question..if the ALP is defeated at the next election (and I suspect it will be before the end of this year), will this still be ongoing or do we run into a wall and start all over again ?

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    Yes Greg,

    This strategy has been put in place by the department. FQ ( Fisheries Queensland ) are putting it together and will present it to their boss and onto the Minister... whoever that may be at the time and which ever party is in power . There is also a Federal Rec Fishing Strategy plan that will ( hopefully ) be consistent with the state one.

    Federal and State legislation and policy needs to be complimentary and un-complicated.


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    As much as I hate to say it, the Strategy Plan will be a vote winner with whoever runs with it
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    Well Phil,

    You have presented your vision- Here's a quick snap shot of mine. (Mine means mine personally, not an Industry point of view.)

    Stop shuffling the deck chairs on the TITANIC. A "whole of Government" approach is required to ensure the strands of Tourism, Fisheries management, infrastructure development & protection of biodiversity (what a crock!) are all dealt with appropriately. All that moving the deck chairs does is to excuse another group from doing a necessary job under the banal "Its not my department..."

    All Fisheries need to be allocated or shared among stakeholders, pro, charter, indigenous & rec with each sector given a tradable & secure "property right" over their portion. A body needs to be created to manage the resource allocation to the rec & indigenous sectors on their behalves. All bioregional and MPA processes are below this property right. Conservation needs to "buy its way in" to Fisheries management.

    All "peak bodies" will be subject to annual & strict audit. All monies provided will be subject to meeting KPIs (Key Performance Indicators). One of the KPIs will be public meetings will have to be held by peak bodies to ensure the wider community has a voice.

    Selection of advisers to Fisheries will be by Industry, NOT only by Fisheries.

    Co- management will be the preferred consultation format, and regional management issues will have a formal process to reach decisions.

    This is a very simple outline by me. I agree with a lot of Phil's rationale- mine deals more with the "what-to-dos".

    I would appreciate feedback on these comments.

    Regards,

    Keith

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