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    Re: Sick Of Paying Too Much For Fuel For The Boat And The Car? Then Try This.

    Quote Originally Posted by rowanda View Post
    why not have a look at what Coles and Woolworths are doing to the market...yes all seems nice and cheap at the moment but they are driving out the little independants which keep the competition there, just like with liquor stores etc.
    Good now, but the future won't look very bright when they are the only ones around!
    i agree, i agree, man try buying an aussi made wallet, half the size and twice the price if you can find one, its all based on growth and the big australia because that is how our economy is geared so what do we do..

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    Re: Sick Of Paying Too Much For Fuel For The Boat And The Car? Then Try This.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chimo View Post
    Litre....


    20x20 = 400
    400x20 = 8,000
    8,000x20 = 160,000
    160,000x20 = 3,200,000
    3,200,000x20 = 64,000,000
    64,000,000x20 = 12,800,000,000
    That's 12.80 Billion people folks, who will have been contacted if we don’t run out of people and you don’t count duplicate contacts!!!!!

    Unbelievable?? Do the math and see for yourself!



    Cheers
    Chimo

    You invited me

    I did the math and found that 64,000,000 x 20 = 1,280,000,000 Or 1.28 billion

    I don't like BP just as a side note, but your math is still wrongif you just slip in an extra "0"

    Cheers
    Chris

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    Re: Sick Of Paying Too Much For Fuel For The Boat And The Car? Then Try This.

    Hi Chris

    A real team player would be a pal and just move the decimal point

    At the the end of the day this isn't about the maths, the issue is to stop buying from BP and see what we can all achieve in the way of fuel price moderation.

    Thanks for your input though; you don't work for some govt somewhere do you?

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    Re: Sick Of Paying Too Much For Fuel For The Boat And The Car? Then Try This.

    If he is associated or affiliated with a petrol chain other than BP; he could get in massive sh!t for this. Anti-competitive behaviour isn't smiled upon by regulators... but in saying that they have let woolworths and coles get away with it for years.

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    Re: Sick Of Paying Too Much For Fuel For The Boat And The Car? Then Try This.

    i still have the opinion that if people boycott BP, and use others, then the others will soon enough run low and order in from other refineries....... most likely BP............ so IMHO only, I doubt BP are shaking in their undies over the threat to boycott them.

    Mike

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    Re: Sick Of Paying Too Much For Fuel For The Boat And The Car? Then Try This.

    May be true MM, but if people don't buy there juice from brand X, BP in this case, then they also don't buy there milk,cig's,drinks etc etc also, and that is a big revenue turner.

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    Re: Sick Of Paying Too Much For Fuel For The Boat And The Car? Then Try This.

    Mike

    You have to start somewhere, ie have a go.

    Is there and alternative to this idea which after all is very simple and easy to try. It just needs the "communications tree" to be applied

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  8. #23

    Re: Sick Of Paying Too Much For Fuel For The Boat And The Car? Then Try This.

    that emails been around for ages....won't make any difference

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    Re: Sick Of Paying Too Much For Fuel For The Boat And The Car? Then Try This.

    I got the same email this week but mine said boycott Caltex.
    Damn, those blokes at BP are sneaky .
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    Re: Sick Of Paying Too Much For Fuel For The Boat And The Car? Then Try This.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chimo View Post
    Hi Chris

    A real team player would be a pal and just move the decimal point

    At the the end of the day this isn't about the maths, the issue is to stop buying from BP and see what we can all achieve in the way of fuel price moderation.

    Thanks for your input though; you don't work for some govt somewhere do you?

    C
    C

    I just hate to see shonks who play things up. 1.2 to 12 billion is a big stretch but I can see now that it was just a honest mistake. BTW I have 3 BP Fuel cards and have just replaced them with 7.11 fuel cards due to the more than 10 cent difference constantly between the two traders ( read 7,11 and BP Ripoff )

    You could go back and edit your post so as to stop stretching the results (governments stretch stuff like that. You don't work for some govt. somewhere do you?)

    Cheers
    Chris

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    Re: Sick Of Paying Too Much For Fuel For The Boat And The Car? Then Try This.

    Quote Originally Posted by rowanda View Post
    why not have a look at what Coles and Woolworths are doing to the market...yes all seems nice and cheap at the moment but they are driving out the little independants which keep the competition there, just like with liquor stores etc.
    Good now, but the future won't look very bright when they are the only ones around!
    bloody dead right. Look at it, the supermarkets entered the market at around the turn of the millenium.
    Fuel was $1 and a 4c discount was 4%.
    When its $2 and the independants are gone it will be 2% and so on.

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    Re: Sick Of Paying Too Much For Fuel For The Boat And The Car? Then Try This.

    the funny thing is our fuel price is set up by singpoor so the us oil price has nothing to do with what we pay at the pump. 2nd the goverment has a hugh percentage of tax on fuel i belive 47% correct me if i am wrong on the exact figure and 3rd depending on what type of outlet you are buying your fuel if it is a franchise than the owner is not making very much money on the fuel maybe 4c to the litre if they are luck due to the price they are charged for the fuel in the first place.

    With the tax gone and an australian based fuel pricing push our petrol / diesel price is going to drop other wise it will only go up

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    Re: Sick Of Paying Too Much For Fuel For The Boat And The Car? Then Try This.

    Quote Originally Posted by bustaonenut View Post
    even if it did work and BP dropped there price by a few cents per litre, everyone would start buying it again
    BINGO, who ever wrote this needs to read economics 101. It is a complete waste of time. If the whole Australian population were to get militant on this, at most you would remove BP from the Australian map. Not one cent would change at the pump. What will happen is that Mobil, Shell and Caltex will be able to raise their prices for the short period we stay strict on this and profit gouge..... Once BP drops the price for a short period we all go back to them defeating the purpose in the first place.

    The specific demand for fuel has not changed in this scenario. The same amount of oil coming from Singapore....... Just the profit margins of the retailers is distorted for a short term.

    Quote Originally Posted by rowanda View Post
    why not have a look at what Coles and Woolworths are doing to the market...yes all seems nice and cheap at the moment but they are driving out the little independants which keep the competition there, just like with liquor stores etc.
    Good now, but the future won't look very bright when they are the only ones around!
    This is the only one at present that can have a slight bearing on prices now and in the future. Having the small independent retailers around to keep the big guys on their toes is very important.

    Short of an unlikely discovery of easy to access and cheap to recover/refine oil in Australia the prices are out of our control (taxes aside) short of much more efficient use of it.
    Democracy: Simply a system that allows the 51% to steal from the other 49%.

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    Re: Sick Of Paying Too Much For Fuel For The Boat And The Car? Then Try This.

    Quote Originally Posted by marty666 View Post
    the funny thing is our fuel price is set up by singpoor so the us oil price has nothing to do with what we pay at the pump. 2nd the goverment has a hugh percentage of tax on fuel i belive 47% correct me if i am wrong on the exact figure and 3rd depending on what type of outlet you are buying your fuel if it is a franchise than the owner is not making very much money on the fuel maybe 4c to the litre if they are luck due to the price they are charged for the fuel in the first place.

    With the tax gone and an australian based fuel pricing push our petrol / diesel price is going to drop other wise it will only go up
    Depends on your starting point for taxation. The exact taxation on a barrel of oil we would produce from a Bass Strait field totalled 82% thru all the different levels..thats total from offshore oil in place to your tank in this country. Much has been simplified and i imagine its a little less these days.
    Most trying to guess how much revenue this country has gleaned from the Bass Strait fields alone over the yrs would need to multiply it by 100 to even come close. Thats from just one "supergiant" field (Kingfish) plus a multitude of giants like Halibut/Fortescue etc...a mere pittance compared to a small arab nation where one field can be triple the entire oil in place reserves in this country. Little wonder the government was so keen to tax and still is...making it almost totally impractical to explore at times. These days with the price of a barrel u could even argue for higher taxation.

    Dreaming if you think bypassing a single producer's bowser will do anything. You would think the Gulf of Mexico blowout and subsequent cleanup would damage their brand considerably in the states....bowsers are just a retail arm of their core business. Its as much brand marketing as anything else, and you not buying BP fuel at a BP station isnt a calamity for them.

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