Ask them if they voted to have the rec sector ousted from a recent meeting. One redcliffe based operator who is telling us recs we need to all work together should remember that all his clients are rec fishermen.
Absolutly pathetic. Hopefully some of you charter operators are reading this.
Hey Andy. That doesn't sound good, but your post doesn't seem to have many facts in it to let people come to their own conclusions. What was the meeting meant to be about? Who was there? Who were the "rec sector" representatives that got ousted. I wasn't there, so I won't be jumping to any conclusions. Were you there?
Jono.
Thanks for the heads up Andy. Can you give us a bit of background. Like why was the rec person ousted? Who was the rec person involved?
Originally Posted by Jono_SS
I am not really in a position to provide much info, but I am sure it will all come out soon. I am a little be aggro over the whole situation. Lets say I dont have a high opinion of sunfish but they copped the raw end of the deal, along with every other rec fisho here.
BTW. Scott Mitchell and co you need to encourage BArry Pollock to get in here more often to give some feedback about these cretins.
Andy
Might be a good idea to check the whole story before the name calling starts. I'd hate to see you dig a hole for yourself without knowing all the facts.
Hi Andy, I don't want to jump into the cauldron, but imho I don't think the charter operator had a hidden agenda. When it is your living at stake, the anti is certainly raised to a whole new level. One problem at the Wynnum meeting was that there was a lot of bantering by us rec fishos (and hey, who can blame us because fisheries hold very little credibility among us), however I noticed a few charter guys who were genuinely concerned that the meeting would not be productive, and at the end of the day any verbal feedback they had a chance of contributing would be gone. I think he was seeking a constructive meeting with fisheries, in the context that the scope of the audience was too large for all sectors to be heard. I reiterate that I was at the Wynnum meeting, not the Redcliffe one, so I am not certain of the circumstances at that meeting specifically.
Best Regards,
Lucky
A few posts got in front of me before I posted the last one, which have led me to believe I incorrectly assumed it was the snapper meetings. I apologise for the presumption
Was it a case of the Sunfish rep sensing his presence not being welcomed at what was suppossed to be a "Rocky Reef Fin Fishery Review - Charter and Commercial Sector Port Meeting", offering to leave and then being taken up on the offer?
I am told that the Sunfish rep was asked by Fisheries to attend as an observer.
A number of Charter operators objected to his presence. A vote was taken 17 to 3 to request his removal. The Sunfish rep then left the meeting.
An apology was given the next day to the Sunfish rep by the Fisheries Minister.
I would have thought that as recreational anglers are the paying clients of charter operators and some of the points in options 1 and 2 for the charter operators will affect their clients (e.g. $4.28 per kilo levy on all snapper caught on the charter) then it would have been wise to let the recreational sector rep remain at the meeting as an observer.
The charter operator will either pay this levy or elect to avoid known snapper marks. If his clients catch snapper and he pays the levy then he will recoupe this cost from his clients, recreational anglers by increasing the charter fees.
Not a very smart move by the charter boys to exclude the Sunfish rep one would think.
Cheers
Barry Day
Is that the proposal?????? Shite so if you have a good days fishing on a charter that you have already paid $ 220.00 + dollars for and you have 15 kg of snapper the Charter operator is going to hit you another $ 64.20 to keep your catch??? WTF !! Give it away Smithy sell the boat and go back to town planning!! Actually you'll be alright as you have a differant type of client, but those boats like Nitro, it will hit them hard!!
Alcohol doesn't agree with me, but i sure do enjoy the argument!!!
Smithy, your clients are recreational fishermen, we too have a vested interest in what happens in the charter industry. You think we are going to agree to proposals that cost us more??? You guys need to stop listening to Keiths drivel.
Bloody hell! Think I will have to get used to eating Brisbane river catfish. They probably wont get taxed out. Crikey might end up eating carp or Tilapia....... where will it end?
carp and talpia!!!!!!
bligh and fraser will tell us they are imports on so will have foriengn import tax imposed follow by a enviorment levy for the damage they do.
then resaerch monitring fee for assercertaining bio mass of said fish.
may be we could leave the fish alone and hunt pollies
If options 1 or 2 for the charter sector are implemented as per the RIS then charter operators will be saddled with the $4.28 per kilo of snapper caught on every charter. This will be seen as an additional cost to operate the charter and will be recouped by jacking up the cost of the charter from $220 to about $240 per paying client.
You would think that the Charter sector would want the Rec sector on side to help put pressure on the Government to have this levy removed from options 1 and 2.
Am I missing something here or is there method in the madness.
Cheers
Barry
Hi Barry.
With the commercial fishery ITQs, i think they have to pay for their quota irrespective of how much of it they use. I imagine the same would apply in this case i.e. charter operators don't just work out how many snapper their clients have caught on a particular trip, then pay a levy after the fact.
When it comes to putting forward proposals, surely the charter operators are going to be making business decisions. if they think paying 4.28 per kilo of quota is going to send them broke, then they will be arguing against it. I'm sure they would be factoring into their equations whether rec fishers are going to be happy paying extra money for a day's fishing, especially having to make an extra big payout at the end of a snapper slaying trip. And if they think that avoiding snapper marks with clients on board hoping to catch snapper will assist their long term operation, then I would think they are dreaming!
I don't pretend to understand the charter sector, but I acknowledge that it would be really hard to run a money-making business like that.
Jono.
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