Snapper tagging. benefits ?

[Platitudinus]

Not so good on the 36's off Goldie as the Dolphins snatch any fish returned .
Cheers
Plato

[oldboot]

regardless of who does the work, gatherers and processes the information and administeres the programe, unless it results in wise, practical, equatable and honest management of the fishery, it is pointless.

At this point in time there is a rightfull disrespect of the government and fisheries departments, and an expectation that any information or statistics will bent to suit the departmental view and end up with a bad outcome for recreational anglers, with unreliable benifits to the fishery.

Of course the big quastion is who is going to finance it, and it requires some sort of "credible scientific ovesight", where will that come from.

OH
BTW, has anybody heard of any nationwide recreational bassed tuna tagging programe...apart from on a popularist fishing TV programe.

It is suposed to exist and included on line logging of tagging and catches.

cheers

[Jono_SS]

regardless of who does the work, gatherers and processes the information and administeres the programe, unless it results in wise, practical, equatable and honest management of the fishery, it is pointless.

At this point in time there is a rightfull disrespect of the government and fisheries departments, and an expectation that any information or statistics will bent to suit the departmental view and end up with a bad outcome for recreational anglers, with unreliable benifits to the fishery.

Of course the big quastion is who is going to finance it, and it requires some sort of "credible scientific ovesight", where will that come from.

OH
BTW, has anybody heard of any nationwide recreational bassed tuna tagging programe...apart from on a popularist fishing TV programe.

It is suposed to exist and included on line logging of tagging and catches.

cheers

There are some sensible/wise words in there Oldboot.

re the tuna program, do you mean the one referred to in this post?

http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/sho...d.php?t=160351

being run by the CSIRO?

cheers.

Jonathan.

[oldboot]

Yep that's the one.

As I have been saying... the big issue is not one pertaining to any specific spicies, it is one that is cultrual and indemic.

All the information gathering things that have been proposed for snapper are or have been done for something else or somewhere else.

The fundamental issue is one of the relationship between the government and the users of the resource.

The fundamental problem is that the environment and by association the fishery is managed primarily for political advantage rather than primarily for the proven benifit of the environment and fishery and those who use both.

It can be reasonably argued that overseas lobby groups like the PEW Environmental Trust, have more say in our environmental and fisheries management than the proven actual stake holders that are actually engaged in the envioronment and fishery.


Government needs to stop pissing about with little isolated programes.

If a tagging exercise is to be set up, why not for a whole range of spiecies and nationwide, there would have to be improvements in the economies of scale.

If any sort of research into the role of the recreational angler is to be undertaken, again why piss arround with one spicies like snapper.

BUT for anything meaningfull to be achieved, the close co-operation and willing compliance of the majority of recreational anglers is required.

Unfortunatly, that requires a level of good will toward the government on fisheries matters, good will that governments both state and federal have been pissing away for years, in persuit of green preferences and in favour of emotionaly bassed overseas backed green ideas.

As it stands, I do not believe the state fisheries department does anything that it is not required to do under commonwealth legeslation.
All these reviews and stock assessments, are all done as a requirement, in a form specified by and on a time scale set down under commonwealth legeslation.

Think about what usefull science could have been done with all the money spent on the Moreton Bay Marine park fiasco...... a marine park rezoning that they don't even have the budjet to properly sign or enforce.

Think about all the money spent on advertising, printing brocures and maps...and of couse all those media adviser and consultant salaries.

How many full time jobs ya recon there are in that Tuna Tagging programe... 1 maybe 2.

cheers

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I Think they should raise the keep size to 40 or 45 . As far as I'm concerned there is not much on a 35cm squire anayway.. You do'nt here them talking Red Emperor since they went 55cm.... ..Paul....rbafc..