Wellington Point Boat Ramp

[mowerman]

Cabin fever got too much for us today so we went for a wander down to Wello.
Bit blowey and brown water with a lot of white around.

Council seemed to do a good job with the referb.

BUT.

Across the top of the ramp is a vehicle counter. A couple of black hose thingys.
The only way to set them off is to drive on the ramp.
I dont mind the council trying to find out how many boats use the ramp

BUT

Lately there have been a few letters in the local rag, and I know 1 councilor has received some correspondence, from non boaters using the park who have received tickets for parking in the trailer areas when the carparks are full, or there are not enough carparks and too many trailer parks.

Maybe the vehicle counter has something to do with this.

Call me paranoid but I will try to get down there every few days and spend 5 minutes driving up and down the ramp.


Rod

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[tropicrows]

might do the same Rod

[sharkymark2]

Was down there Xmas day and saw the same counter. Thought to myself with all this wind lately no one will be going out and the council will get skewed data to make decisions affecting us all. Did think of the same thing . How about we ask for a groyne to be built so we can have all weather launching. That ramp is a cow in any sort of wind.

[SUPERDAFF]

As a regular user of Wello Point ramp, I was delighted to see Council officers at work back in October and penned this email to the local Councillor, Wendy Boglary.

Telling Councillors your view is the way to be heard. Why not drop a quick email to Wendy as the responsible divisional Councillor with a copy to the Mayor?

My thoughts are below (noting that others may well think differently).

The relevant email addresses are: wendy.boglary@redland.qld.gov.au and for Melva Hobson, mayor@redland.qld.gov.au

Wello Point is different to other ramps such as Cleveland inasmuch as there are stacks and stacks of parking spaces for individual cars in addition to the trailer/car parks.

Cr Wendy Boglary
Redland City Council

Congratulations to Council for acting effectively on an on-going and very real problem. Please pass on my sincere thanks to fellow Councillors, the Chief Executive, departmental officers and staff.

On Sunday, I had to do several laps of the Wellington Point Reserve in an effort to find a space to park my car and boat trailer. On arrival, a single car accelerated past me to grab the last remaining combined boat and car space and use it as a single car space. (Fortunately a car and trailer moved from the other side of the parking spaces thereby providing a pacifying solution).

On returning to the ramp in mid-afternoon, I was delighted to see a Council By-Laws officer issuing parking infringement notices to the cars parked singularly in spaces very clearly marked, sign-posted and designated as boat-trailer spaces.

(Irrespective of the obvious signage, anyone not intelligent, courteous or observant enough to figure out that a designated 12 metre long parking space located at a boat ramp should perhaps be left for a car and hitched boat trailer, is clearly not intelligent, courteous or observant enough to hold a driver’s licence).

I thanked the Council officer for her diligence in issuing the tickets to the offending vehicles.

Boating and its associated expenditures are an important part of the city’s economy as well as the bayside lifestyle. Unfortunately, you probably only ever hear whinging from the offenders booked.

The bottom line is that such parking infringements are elective donations to Council. People can park correctly and not incur a fine, or they can elect to park illegally and make a donation to Council’s coffers.

Money raised by By-Laws officers at Wellington Point Reserve also removes the need for that money to be raised in the form of increased Council Rates.

These infringement notices are incurred entirely voluntarily so please continue to issue the infringement notices.

Cabin fever got too much for us today so we went for a wander down to Wello.
Bit blowey and brown water with a lot of white around.

Council seemed to do a good job with the referb.

BUT.

Across the top of the ramp is a vehicle counter. A couple of black hose thingys.
The only way to set them off is to drive on the ramp.
I dont mind the council trying to find out how many boats use the ramp

BUT

Lately there have been a few letters in the local rag, and I know 1 councilor has received some correspondence, from non boaters using the park who have received tickets for parking in the trailer areas when the carparks are full, or there are not enough carparks and too many trailer parks.

Maybe the vehicle counter has something to do with this.

Call me paranoid but I will try to get down there every few days and spend 5 minutes driving up and down the ramp.


Rod

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[theoldlegend]

Maybe we could have a mini M & G there one day and just keep running back and forth over the recording thingos.


TOL

[TimiBoy]

I ran over it twice today at Raby Bay.

Will do it a few more times when we pull the Riptide out on Sunday.

Cheers,

Tim

[Marlin_Mike]

I ran over it twice today at Raby Bay.

Will do it a few more times when we pull the Riptide out on Sunday.

Cheers,

Tim

I'll help you run over it Timi, hoping to drop old Fireball in for a run Sunday up to Tangalooma way

Mike

[marto78]

As a regular user of Wello Point ramp, I was delighted to see Council officers at work back in October and penned this email to the local Councillor, Wendy Boglary.

Telling Councillors your view is the way to be heard. Why not drop a quick email to Wendy as the responsible divisional Councillor with a copy to the Mayor?

My thoughts are below (noting that others may well think differently).

The relevant email addresses are: wendy.boglary@redland.qld.gov.au and for Melva Hobson, mayor@redland.qld.gov.au

Wello Point is different to other ramps such as Cleveland inasmuch as there are stacks and stacks of parking spaces for individual cars in addition to the trailer/car parks.

Cr Wendy Boglary
Redland City Council

Congratulations to Council for acting effectively on an on-going and very real problem. Please pass on my sincere thanks to fellow Councillors, the Chief Executive, departmental officers and staff.

On Sunday, I had to do several laps of the Wellington Point Reserve in an effort to find a space to park my car and boat trailer. On arrival, a single car accelerated past me to grab the last remaining combined boat and car space and use it as a single car space. (Fortunately a car and trailer moved from the other side of the parking spaces thereby providing a pacifying solution).

On returning to the ramp in mid-afternoon, I was delighted to see a Council By-Laws officer issuing parking infringement notices to the cars parked singularly in spaces very clearly marked, sign-posted and designated as boat-trailer spaces.

(Irrespective of the obvious signage, anyone not intelligent, courteous or observant enough to figure out that a designated 12 metre long parking space located at a boat ramp should perhaps be left for a car and hitched boat trailer, is clearly not intelligent, courteous or observant enough to hold a driver’s licence).

I thanked the Council officer for her diligence in issuing the tickets to the offending vehicles.

Boating and its associated expenditures are an important part of the city’s economy as well as the bayside lifestyle. Unfortunately, you probably only ever hear whinging from the offenders booked.

The bottom line is that such parking infringements are elective donations to Council. People can park correctly and not incur a fine, or they can elect to park illegally and make a donation to Council’s coffers.

Money raised by By-Laws officers at Wellington Point Reserve also removes the need for that money to be raised in the form of increased Council Rates.

These infringement notices are incurred entirely voluntarily so please continue to issue the infringement notices.

Geez it would be good to get them down at the Nudgee ramp, there is only one rigging lane before the ramp and the last two times I have been down with the boat I have had to rig up at the top of the ramp due to all the cars parked there.
Marto

[oldboot]

There is a real problem in thinking about the "equality" between boat and trailer parking and picknicker parking.

There is a very real problem for someone launcing a boat, then seeking to park.

The boater must be able to park in fairly short order...if they cant park they have to yank the boat back out.... hours of preparation runied.

At wello there is no alternative choice once the boating parks are full...there IS nowhere else to park.

In comparison the picknicker have a much lower investment in time and money in their outing.....and thay can wat till someone leaves or go somewhere else.

The boatie has no such choice..

Single vehicles parking in boat parks is a common problem in many places...Wynnum for instance.

The other problem is that the boating spaces will only ever bee completly filled in good weather whne normal people have days off.

But I have been down at wello when the boating parks were completly full.

I do note that some of the pervioulsy short parks on the oposite side of to the ramp have been lengthened to boat & trailer length.

cheers

[Jackinthebox]

Same problem down here on the Goldy at the Labrador ramp, we have a pub, restaurants and hi-rises across the road and there's always plenty of numb nuts using the last remaining boat/trailer parks when there are heaps of car spaces 50 metres away down the road.

Fortunately the council officers are onto it and do a roaring trade, especially on the weekends ...

[Mark Robinson MP]

I would like to commend Superdaff for his suggestion to write to the local councillor, Wendy Boglary, and the mayor. Let them know you are grateful for the parking. As state MP for Wellington Point, I have seen it full with boat trailers plenty of times on fine weekends. At peak times every space is used.
Tight lines,
Mark

[BILLY THE KID]

The new reserve upgrades are the most ridiculous design i have seen
Piss poor pedestrian safety and traffic management design

A pedestrian crossing into the middle will not stop a person from cutting across the top of the ramp to get to the jetty . I counted at least 20 people walking across the ramp while boats where being retreived on sunday arvo around 6pm

Here is a copy of the email sent to Wendy Boglary and Melva Hobson well before the work was completed .


The upgrade of the wellington point reserve that is currently under construction , has many
points that should be considered as soon as possible .


While creating more grassland area along the foreshore on the eastern side , this will also create extra
vehicle traffic around this side of the reserve with more people looking for empty car spots to park in .
This will lead to more traffic congestion while people wait for boats being reversed onto the boat ramp .
With more people walking around this side, the increased traffic flow may result in someone being struck by a vehicle
either reversing with a boat or someone getting impatient and swing around the stationary cars waiting for car spaces


The biggest concern and issue that needs to be addressed , is the fact of a footpath along the eastern side foreshore
that crosses BOTH BOAT RAMPS . This is a design flaw that hopefully will not come back to haunt the designers ,
councillors and the users of the reserve .

In all seriousness , why would someone agree to a footpath across 2 extremely popular boat launching ramps in the
Redlands . This issue is one of the worst design flaws i have ever seen .

A person reversing any sort of watercraft should not have to worry about people walking across the top of the boat
ramps .

Hopefully this will highlight some of the major flaws in the way this has been designed and will prevent the occurrences
of the for-see able accidents waiting to happen on a sunny Weekend morning .

Perhaps the recent Australia Day public holiday is an example of traffic chaos that the reserve may become if the plans
are implemented

This is from a concerned parent and resident of Wellington point

I sure hope the day never comes when a kid is dragged down the ramp under a trailer and the first the poor boatie knows about it is when he is about to unhook the boat at the bottom of the ramp .

[AnthonyL]

Great letter Billy......

I launched at Comslie ramp yesterday and found as usual there were several cars without boats parked in front of the dogpark. There was only one vacant boat space ut the person in the next space had parked over the line so it was to tight to get in. Ihad to wait with boat in water for someone to leave.......very annoying problem at comslie with the dog park.