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Shark fin fishing is the cruellest, most despicable form of fishing in my opinion. We really ought to just sink the f#$kers I reckon. When they realise that old mate long dong didn't come home and the neither did yu fong then maybe they would think twice!!!! Bastards!!!!
Terry.....
The trouble is the bastards will keep doing it because of our the weak as p**s deterrents we have in place.
Are they strong enough to even call a deterant FT?Originally Posted by Freshwater Tragic
The trouble is the bastards will keep doing it because of our the weak as p**s deterrents we have in place.
My thoughts are similar to yours therapy but along the lines of Islamic punishments. They cut off the shark fins so maybe when caught we need to cut off one or two appendages from these criminals. Not saying which ones, I'd leave that up to the captors.
I'd be happy to see them take the whole darn shark actually, at least that way the thing might meet a more humane fate rather than having to suffer in agony whilst it bleeds to death.
Why are you calling them bastards? Because they had shark fin on board or because they are Asians, illegally fishing in our waters?
Sorry Therapy just read your post.....great minds!!!
probable the fact that their illegally fishing....what do you think would happen to an aussie boat if it went into their waters?
Have you seen how they harvest shark fin?? They cut off the fins and dump the still alive barrel of the shark back into the water. Bloody cruel!! Whether they are black, brown,white, yellow or brindle, whoever can do this is a cruel bastard!! I didn't mention nationality because we all know who is doing it and I really don't think it matters. Illegally fishing in what they know are Australian waters (they have sophisticated gps)while we are being legislated against to the point of stupidity is frustrating and just enough to p#ss me off....
Terry....
I dont think it would matter who it was..... whether it be asians, japs, it could be the yanks, the poms, even aussies, its still not right what there doing??
tell ya what bring your dog over to my place and ill cut off its ears and slowly let it bleed to death....is that ok??
Dont bring in the whole knocking asian thing....its about what there doing not who they are...
I fail to see how he is forcing his opinions on the rest of us. The last time I glanced at the Constitution there were references made to the right of free speech.I also doubt that you further your argument via the use of personal abuse.
Shawn
Re: Illegal paoching scum caught
I support Hoopers comment 100%.
Couldn't have said it better myself Wayno!
"Don't bring in the whole knocking asians thing....it's about what there doing not who they are..."
read: Therapy "old mate long dong" and "yu fong"
You have missed my point! I'm not suggesting for a second what happens here is right. Read my first line! The argument gets lost in targeting the race re. Africa, South America and Asia whomever, as I have also previously highlighted. Doing so opens the door for mob mentality and mudies the water. Blowing up boats isn't going to do jack sh!t. These people couldn't care less, and I bet being somewhere in Aus waters is better off than where they have come from.
The whole f#cked reality of this is Aus still serve Shark Fin Soup! Shark Fins don’t offer any flavour to a dish, it’s purely fir texture! Can you believe it! “This Shark Fin is tasteless, but gees it feels wonderful on my tongue”…how ridiculous.
Effort needs to be made to protect these sharks. Register to put them on an endangered species list, educate Marine Park authorities. These waters are Australian owned. This has worked for whaling, numbers that were hunted to near extinction have bounced backed.
The issuess are clouded with slandering comments about race, however my previous comments were personal...and I take them back in the heat of battle!
I dont believe for one moment sharks feel pain...but for sure they react to stumuli in a basal brain sense like a billion other organism do. Hard for the layman to get a grasp upon as we use ourselves as the benchmark but still it is a fairly rudimentary understanding all said and done.
That said i think the cut fin from an alive shark of then just throw the rest away is a blight upon us all.
I find it funny that a person can use a mildly (not really you need to work on it therapy) humorous play on words to depict the similar (or rhyming) names of an ethnic group and all of a sudden they are now labelled a racist. What you can't take the piss out of how peoples names from other countries sound to the english ear now? Political correctness has gone too far in this instance! Hooper get off your bloody high horse. There was absolutely NOTHING racist in that comment and you have blown this out of proportion and steered this thread completely away from the very positive path that it started on.
Time to make serving shark fin soup punishable by mandatory imprisonment and anyone in Aussie waters found with shark fins punishable the same. If they are foreigners, burn the boat to the water and make an arti reef out of it.
Democracy: Simply a system that allows the 51% to steal from the other 49%.
Too right. There's no way Terry's a racist (met him, he's way too nice a bloke).
PC twits play the racist and they expect everyone to hiss and sigh and join them in condemning the speaker. Thankfully not on Ausfish!
I've eaten sharkfin soup once, on business, in Singapore. To refuse to eat it would have been an insult, and cost me my job probably. It was very nice, the texture was fascinating. While I ate it I thought of all the hunger in the world, and of the 99% of the poor contributing shark that was thrown back. It's wickedness, imo.
But consider the cultural aspects: to some Asian cultures, sharkfin soup, whalemeat, dolphin, birds nests, dogs and whatever else, are part of their make up. Who are we to tell them what (not) to eat? The only right we have is to regulate our waters, which, because they are so huge and we are such a small population, we will never do adequately.
Glad they were caught, sad they will not be adequately punished for trespassing and wastefulness.
My, what a can of worms this thread has opened!
Cheers,
Tim
Carbon Really Ain't Pollution.
Anyway, back on the original intent of the thread. I have no issue with shark fin soup. So long as it is from a sustainable fishery and as a part of a socially considered program. This means to me, a monitored commercial fishery that requires fins to be taken off sharks that are harvested for the rest of their products as well. I take more offence to the wastage in shark fining.
It is surprising how much of any animal can be used. Years ago I worked in an abatoir and the only part of the beast that is thrown away is the switch (end of the tail). All the rest is turned into product - meat, guts, blood, bone, fat, skin, hooves/horn. I even know a use for the switch - fly tying, but there are too many for that market.
The problem with the issue reported by Terry is that the shark finning practice described is socially unacceptable, wasteful and in breach of our laws. In the area it occured, the most common offenders are illegal fisherman from asian countries, hence the reference to his solution, but I am sure that his, mine and others objection to this practice of shark fining would apply to anyone doing it in Australian water, be it illegal fisherman from other countries or Joe Blo from the NSW South Coast.
Illegal fishing in Australian waters (north and south) is a real problem and needs a tougher stance, but this cost money to fund.
FWIW, I am not totally against a sustainable, controlled whale fishery for certain species of whales. Better than the current farce - how much research can they do?
Steve
PS: Hooper, you get credit from me for making the statement - 'The issues are clouded with slandering comments about race, however my previous comments were personal...and I take them back in the heat of battle!'. Good to see that comments made that probably could have been better phased to make a point can be acknowledged as being inappropriate in hindsight.
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