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    For the baggers of Super Cheep Calibre Chargers

    I have spent some time analysing my calibre 10Amp charger. My conclusion is that they are a very good unit. Basic, not 10 stage charging bullcrap that actually just wastes your dollars. Simple, does what it needs and no more.

    The output of mine during boost mode averages at about 14.2V, making it safe for all chemistries, including GEL and AGM. The max ripple I could measure was 130mv at abaout half load, and this is very good.

    I was doubting this unit, but had mine for about 3 year now. I need to test it more at full load of 10A and float but based on current tests I doubt it will be a problem.

    Image shows max ripple I could generate at half load (5A)


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    Re: For the baggers of Super Cheep Calibre Chargers

    I've got one too and cant fault it.

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    Re: For the baggers of Super Cheep Calibre Chargers

    Neither can I.

    Toddy

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    Re: For the baggers of Super Cheep Calibre Chargers

    Said this for years about chargers.
    I wonder how the 'must have' brands like Ctek compare under real testing??
    I intend on living for-ever....so far so good


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    Re: For the baggers of Super Cheep Calibre Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by finga View Post
    Said this for years about chargers.
    I wonder how the 'must have' brands like Ctek compare under real testing??
    I have wondered that too, but I buggered if I am forking out $500+ for a 10A CTek charger. The more I read into it. The more I realise that it is all marketing and snake oil IMHO.


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    Re: For the baggers of Super Cheep Calibre Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealAndy View Post
    I buggered if I am forking out $500+ for a 10A CTek charger. The more I read into it. The more I realise that it is all marketing and snake oil IMHO.
    Yep. Sure is.
    I nearly got a charger from Aldi a few weeks ago.
    It would have been really interesting to see the results when comparing a $40 (I think it was) charger to a $500 charger.
    I would fork out the $500 for a real good charger but these Ctek's seem to fail within a couple of years for no reason.
    I wonder if they have a millenium type bug built into them so they self destruct and people keep buying them??
    I intend on living for-ever....so far so good


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    Re: For the baggers of Super Cheep Calibre Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by finga View Post
    Said this for years about chargers.


    Ditto.

    I have used a cheapie for many, many years and have never been disappointed by it.

    How much more than a transformer and a diode or diode bridge does one need in a charger?


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    Re: For the baggers of Super Cheep Calibre Chargers

    I guess what it all comes down to is, for the "casual" user that may have a need for a charger now and then (me) then a cheap charger will suffice, but for someone like (say) my son who has a couple of deep cycle jobs for his electric outboard, he needs a more "smart" type of charger, I have built heaps of chargers over the years (back in the good old days) but now, you can just go and buy a suitable charger for what amounts to peanuts, I am not too sure the high end models are all that much better than a reasonable cheap one.

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    Re: For the baggers of Super Cheep Calibre Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by Noelm View Post
    for someone like (say) my son who has a couple of deep cycle jobs for his electric outboard, he needs a more "smart" type of charger,

    What do the "smart" chargers do differently?

    Do they limit the charging current to prevent overheating and buckling of the plates? Do they stop charging after a time period? Do they test the battery under load every now and then to check how much charge it needs?

    A really smart one would take an SG reading every now and then - but I guess that they are not that smart.



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    Re: For the baggers of Super Cheep Calibre Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by charleville View Post
    What do the "smart" chargers do differently?

    Do they limit the charging current to prevent overheating and buckling of the plates? Do they stop charging after a time period? Do they test the battery under load every now and then to check how much charge it needs?
    In short....YES.
    Some even have a slow drain and recharge function which is just what the doctor ordered I reckon.
    I intend on living for-ever....so far so good


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    Re: For the baggers of Super Cheep Calibre Chargers

    My charger cost me $16 at supercheap. . I do have a really old charger that does an express job . but it looks like it came from the Fred Flenstone days. Heavy ass.

    I have killed two battiers with it. Was was a battery i brought off here that was hmm secondhand and the other a normal car battery that dropped a cell on the weekend.

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    Re: For the baggers of Super Cheep Calibre Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by charleville View Post
    Ditto.

    I have used a cheapie for many, many years and have never been disappointed by it.

    How much more than a transformer and a diode or diode bridge does one need in a charger?


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    For long term use a transformer and rectifier are not much chop. The ripple causes heating in batteries, and heat is the killer. Probably ok for automotive use, but no good for gel or agm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noelm View Post
    I guess what it all comes down to is, for the "casual" user that may have a need for a charger now and then (me) then a cheap charger will suffice, but for someone like (say) my son who has a couple of deep cycle jobs for his electric outboard, he needs a more "smart" type of charger, I have built heaps of chargers over the years (back in the good old days) but now, you can just go and buy a suitable charger for what amounts to peanuts, I am not too sure the high end models are all that much better than a reasonable cheap one.
    I use the supercheap charger on my deep cycles for the electric outboard and it does a great job. These chargers are pretty good, and I am pretty sure they are an aussie designed charger too (might even be an aussie company).


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    Re: For the baggers of Super Cheep Calibre Chargers

    Worth a read. Copy/paste from a commercial site

    So why should I pay more for a so called 'Smart' or 'Multi Stage' battery charger, rather than just buy a cheaper standard car battery charger?
    Well, here are a few facts about battery chargers, and you can then make up your own mind as to what sort of battery charger you would like charging up to your batteries.
    The standard automotive battery chargers that most of us know and own are what we call (linear) constant voltage chargers. In simple terms what this means is as the battery is charging the voltage slowly rises, and as the voltage rises the current (amps) that the charger is putting into the battery starts to drop off, and keeps falling until the battery voltage is up around 14 volts or so, at this point the amps going in has now dropped off to almost nothing and the battery is deemed to be 'charged' but they are NOT really fully charged, and also this process can take a very long time because of the constantly reducing current input. On the other hand these chargers when left connected to a battery for too long can, and often do damage the battery
    Now with the newer Smart multi stage chargers, these are a much different animal, and they do cost a bit more, but what they can achieve is well worth the extra money in most cases, and are good value if you value your batteries, the first big advantage is that they do fully charge a battery, and fast too, and at the same time they do it safely, giving the battery what it needs, when it needs it.
    Now in contrast to the auto (constant voltage) charger, these smart chargers do multi stage charging, a smart 3 or more stage charger are usually sized to the battery bank it has to charge, all battery chargers should be sized for the job, too big or too small and they won't do their job very well, and can in most cases kill the batteries over time.
    Smart multi stage chargers start first with the 'boost' stage, in this stage the charger puts in as much current as the charger is capable of for as long as it can safely do so, in the this stage it operates as a constant current charger, so if it's a 10A charger it will put in a constant 10 amps until the battery reaches a voltage set point that is normally about 14.4-14.7v, at this time the battery is about 85-90% charged.
    Now the next stage begins, the 'Adsorption' stage, and the charger now turns into a constant voltage charger, it now holds the voltage at the set point, say 14.4 volts, now the only way it can do this is it must back off the current, otherwise the voltage would just keep climbing higher and higher, so it must vary the current to hold the battery at the 14.4 volts.
    After some time the amount of current flowing to keep the battery at the set point is so small that the chargers smart processor circuit says to it's self, "hey, I've been holding this battery at the required voltage until the amps have dropped off to almost nothing, this battery has stopped accepting any real current now, so it must be fully charged!" the charger now convinced that the battery has finished charging and is fully charged, goes into the next stage, the 'Float or maintenance' stage, this is where it backs the current off even further so the battery voltage drops to around 13.5-13.8v, and now holds it there by varying the current again, the lower voltage is below the electrolytes gassing point and can be left on charge like this indefinitely, and if power is being drawn from the battery the charger just ramps up the current out-put to match the draw.
    The real advantages of smart multi stage chargers are, faster charging, fuller charging, ultimately leading to longer battery life, more useable capacity from the batteries, less electrolyte loss in the case of wet flooded batteries, and/or little chance of over charging and killing sealed batteries.

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    Re: For the baggers of Super Cheep Calibre Chargers

    The calibre charger is a mutistage charger. It runs at 14V or thereabouts till then end, then runs in a float mode. However this is different to an 8 stage charger, which claims to revive your battery and work all sorts of magic on it.

    And contrary to popular beleif, gels and agm's dont like bulk charging. Its possible a few manufactures allow it, but in general most dont. Bulk charging causes heat and gassing, which is detrimental to gel and agm life.

    So the suprecheap charger might take a day longer, but for that extra day you get extended battery life. Works for me.


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    Re: For the baggers of Super Cheep Calibre Chargers

    I've been charging my 100a/h deep cycle battery for the leccy motor with my supercheap charger for 2 years and now dramas so far and the battery is an old second hand one from ebay too.

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