a pod is counted in total length (if the motor is on it) but you will have to pay for it to be re-stampedOriginally Posted by bassfan
http://www.maritime.nsw.gov.au/docs/...ninglength.pdf
cheers Murf
a pod is counted in total length (if the motor is on it) but you will have to pay for it to be re-stamped
http://www.maritime.nsw.gov.au/docs/...ninglength.pdf
cheers Murf
Not the same laws at all. The Qld law states kids under 12 years in vessels less than 4.8m must have them on when the boat is moving and this is not totally unreasonable although I still believe it should be the parent or master that makes that decision according to the situation ie. weather conditions, distance from shore and kids swimming ability. In NSW they have taken it to the absolute extreme by insisting that any person alone in a vessel under 4.8 must wear one, even if you are at anchor in calm waters and have a bronze medallion. THIS IS TOTALLY UNREASONABLE.
As far as you choosing to wear an inflatable lifejacket all the time, that is your right and I think it is a good thing that you CHOOSE to wear one and therefore do so. However, others that don't choose to wear one because the situation doesn't require it should not be forced to do so by some ill thought out law passed by an ignorant bureacrat.
bassfan
Gents,
Trying to seek clarification on this one for my young fella,
We have a 5m open dinghy. Harrison sometimes wears a life jacket all the time and sometimes he doesn't depends on what we are doing in the river. So to that end what does this mean:
Children under 12 years of age
• on a vessel less than 8 meters and in the open area of a vessel
when underway.
Given I have an open dinghy - if he is sitting anywhere in that boat while we are moving he must where a life jacket?????
Is that everyone's reading of the new laws.
Brett
yep, that's my take on it.
yes Brett when moving and this includes drifting
cheers Murf
yeah well that does make sense, you cannot possibly fall over baord and bang your head and drown while anchored could you?
Moving as you boat is open 100% of the time he has to have a jacket on. Anchored he doesn't as you are over 4.8m
Ahhh NSW the state of many rules.
Read the fine print and as soon as your boat breaks down you need to don a lifejacket.
Everyone will need a induction everytime they go near their boat.
I can kite surf on my own 399m from shore and don't need anything- My board doesn't eve float for Flucks sake- ??????
But I can't be in a full floatation dinghy under 4.8m long in 2 foot of water in my local lake????? I can be in a surf lifesaving boat doing a coastal training row but I can't be in 2 foot of water in my lagoon??
I can be on a surfboard anywhere or swimming and not need one. Oh those people are not lic holders on a registered craft and have a big lobby so we'll leave them alone.
I think all divers should have to wear a solid pdf 1 then there would be fewer cases of the bends!! We could drain the ocean as well of add lots of jelly powder crystals.
Frigging rules for rules sake
Noel when I looked at the statistics -now removed from site bugger all were caused by people hitting heads etc unless thay had already had a heart attack.. Statistics , dam statistics.
Lets be serious, a non auto inflatable ain't going to save you if you aren't conscious but they are still allowed. A pdf 2 or 3 won't save you ether as you will be face down!!!!!. Rules are still not common sense if they were trying to stop someone unconcious going overboard with these rules. But they will add to them and make them more onerous.
The statistics were badly flawed and led to flawed policy but if you ask the question does everyone want it to be safer the answer always comes back yes and people forget to ask the real question of out of 200 million people boat journeys that only 200 deaths happened and only 10% of those were directly related to a possibly survival if a jacket was worn. Bugger that stat doesn't look convincing so I change it to boats registered and multiply by average usage .lets say there is 100000 boats and each boat is only used once a month then that means that ot of 10000 boat usage that 203 deaths - wow that is convincing so I could go on.
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For those of you that may have missed this little insight into the dishonourable Paul Macleay MP, follow this link for a good laugh....Interestingly the NSW Government Minister for Porn Paul Macleay, was the fool in charge when this was approved, and he is a proven landlubber who's only boating experience was in the bathtub as a kid. Mind you I understand he was pretty cluey with a computer....
bassfan
Sadly, it truly is indicative of the calibre of people running the state of NSW these days.
Thanks to all for their interest & responses.
bassfan
Remember this will have very littel to do with boating safety.
It is not just NSW, we are finding this token effort consultation and preconcieved conclusions to be what both major political parties are up to these days.
Governments are more interested in passing restrictive legeslation with high penalties that they are in actually informing the public or speding money on things that will work.
This will be aimed at winning votes ( at least in someones mind) and most people who do not go boating will think it is a wonderfull idea...cost to the government.......didly squat...a few brocures and press releases..and those will tell us how wonderfull that government is and will be in full glossy colour.
Consider also there are those who realy have a very poor attitude to life jackets and if they did finaly decide they needed to have one on it would be too late.
In places like lake Cootharaba, where you can belt along in a catamaran or canoe........and in most places step out of it and stand up it sonds quite silly.
But if you read the detail of the QLD regs they are far more reasonable than those proposed or ineffect in the south.
cheers
Its the details, those little details, that make the difference.
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