Narvava low 2wd

[cormorant]

garry's truck just got a nickname.

So what is it like to drive "julia "around all day. Forget the nose in front the whine that would kill me!!! Is the suspension a bit fat , non responsive and wallows a lot? Does it have a wide load sign on the tailgate? I wouldn't look under that bonnet to save my life. Just know you'll paint it red with some slag tag highlights down the side



PS I am sorry if I have just put a curse on your car. I'm sure there is a cure like covering in diesel and lighting it.

[White Pointer]

There are inherent problems with all new vehicles. The clutch is one that seems to pop up on a few different makes.

I too am really pissed off I cannot find a 4 x 4 ( mid range dual cab ) that has free wheeling hubs.

I know I ma going to blow a front diff soon, as I use 4 Low ( only option in low ) to pull boat from ramp which is on bitumen and of course you are turning etc.

AND the bloody electric in and out button thingie is a P.I.T.A.....

I think you got that clutch at a very good price.


Cheers Lp.
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G'day,

Driving a part time 4x4 in high or low range on hard ground should not worry the axles but it can cause the transfer case to bind up - and then expensive things break. You will feel the transfer case binding up if you are going very slowly. If you are going quickly things will break.

Using 4x4 low in a Navara, or Colorado or my Rodeo is OK for launch and retrieve provided that you keep power as low as possible just to overcome the obstacle and then stop, engage reverse and roll back a couple of inches and then disengage low range and 4WD.

As much as I like the control of manual transmissions I have had automatics since asbestos was banned from automotive friction materials and engines got a lot more torque. Clutches just can't stand the torque of engines and towing any more.

Having said that, I cannot understand why makers of 4x4 utilities won't fit a centre differential in the interests of safety. They add airbags and ABS brakes and more power and torque but not the best power control and safety system they have to offer. For example, Toyota could put the Prado driveline in HiLux pretty easily. I think the Navara cousin, the Pathfinder has a centre diff. Isuzu (aka) Holden Rodeo/Colorado had a constant 4x4 in the Jackaroo Monterey 15 years ago. Land Rover made all their vehicles constant 4WD in the mid-1980's. Why can't we have what we need?

Regards,

White Pointer

[GBC]

W.P. mitsubishi has all wheel drive option on the higher spec models with the dial turning doodad on the dash.

[Apollo]

I drive a D40 for work - V6 auto and it is a pretty good match. I haven't had any major issues with except the coating peeling from the steering wheel centre where the thumb sits. Still on original brakes at 60000km, tyres changed at 55000km.

Would I own one privately - no. They are a death trap if things go wrong.

Steve

[Steeler]

LP your point regarding clutches on newer vehicles could possibly be that as manufactures are building to a price tag the quality of components is also reduced.I am thinking in years gone by manufacturers were fitting the likes of Daikin/Exedy Clutch kits as OE but now would not surprise if the likes of LUK kits and other cheaper clutch kits are used as OE.

A while back even Clutch Industries ( old PBR clutch ) recognized Exedy manufactured a far superior product as some of there more heavy duty kits such as the Scooby Doo WRX and some 4WD kits were Exedy repacked in a Clutch Industries box.

[tropicrows]

Outofcontrol,

I have only read the first few threads, so your problem might has already been solved, but you could try asking the question on the forum below.

http://www.navara.asia/

[Lucky_Phill]

Steeler, yep, I had a daikin put in the Navara after I drowned it.

Maybe by the time i need one in the Colorado, Daikin will have one for it. OR, the clutch will last long enough for me to get a new T6 ?????


LP.

[White Pointer]

LP your point regarding clutches on newer vehicles could possibly be that as manufactures are building to a price tag the quality of components is also reduced.I am thinking in years gone by manufacturers were fitting the likes of Daikin/Exedy Clutch kits as OE but now would not surprise if the likes of LUK kits and other cheaper clutch kits are used as OE.

A while back even Clutch Industries ( old PBR clutch ) recognized Exedy manufactured a far superior product as some of there more heavy duty kits such as the Scooby Doo WRX and some 4WD kits were Exedy repacked in a Clutch Industries box.

G'day,

No. It's as I say. When asbestos gave way to other materials such as Lexan clutch plates tended to glaze if given a hard time but didn't clean up the way asbestos plates did. The clutches behind truck engines are so much bigger that they survived better but today we see electro-magnetic clutches and sequential gearboxes replacing the old style manual box and friction clutch.

A telling example of this was Ford Falcon a few years who allowed up to 2100Kg to be towed with an automatic but restricted the manual to 1200Kg.

On another note, but following up some of the observations made about tyre and brake wear, my Rodeo is now coming up to 60K and is still on original tyres and brakes. My guesstimate is that the rear tyres will be shot at around 80K. The Land Rover Discovery gets 60K out of rear brakes, 90K out of front brakes and 115K out of tyres by which time they still have tread on them but the casings are shot. Neither car is driven loaded and neither is driven hard - too much like hard work. The hardest work they do is ocsassionally hauling 2T of boat.

Regards,

White Pointer

[Steeler]

My point was a general observation about how vehicle manufacturers source components for there finished product.There are many well known vehicle component manufacturers where a large part of there revenue and business once came from being an OE supplier but over the years as vehicle manufacturers have had to become more price sensitive about the final price they can take there car to market for they have sourced cheaper suppliers.When it comes to clutches you can pretty much put LUK.Highway and Clutch Industries in the same basket where as Exedy have always manufactured a better product.

I was working for a company who was sounded out to supply a particular under car component to an Australian vehicle manufacturer and i am first to admit the quality of our product was not even in the same league as there current supplier but neither was the price.

[White Pointer]

W.P. mitsubishi has all wheel drive option on the higher spec models with the dial turning doodad on the dash.

G'day,

Thanks for this. If the "Super-Select" AWD system is now available in Triton I would strongly recommend it for recreational users who want a boat tractor with a constant 4x4 system.

I'm not too impressed with the BIG BUM extended rear overhang on these or the body perched on chassis making getting in but I own a Land Rover, so who am I to complain.

If you all go out and buy one, guess what will be done by Toyota, Isuzu, et al in no time flat?

Regards,

White Pointer

[Crocodile]

Hello All,
Have a look at the Mitsubishi website for an explaination of Super-Select, it's very pretty.
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.au/...es/performance
I read this as saying that when you select any of the four-wheel-drive modes the center diff locks up.
Bad for turning on hard surfaces, no advantage to us boat reversers.

The reason why the utes don't have the same 4WD systems as the Pajeros and Pathfinders is that it provides a marketing difference, if you could buy utes with all of the tricks it would hurt the sale of the station wagons types.
For the same reason we have this nonsense of motors increasing a little bit each year.
2.8 lt to 3.0 lt to 3.2 lt and so on.
If Mitsubishi suddenly brought out 7lt V8 it would kill the sales of the opposition, but what would they do next year? They would be competing against their own used cars. That is why we get new models every year or so.

Consider the old Subarus that had a syncro change to and from low range. If you had to stop at an uphill set of lights you could take off in Low, get it rolling change into High on the move, great for saving the clutch. Syncro to and from low range would be really handy.

I still think that an electrical interupt switch to the air compressor that engages the front diff would be an economical and simple way to use low range on hard surfaces.