Mustang 2000 Bluewater

[scottd12345]

I know this boat has been chatted about before, but would like updated views on the Mustang 2000 Bluewater. I am looking at buying a second hand 2005 version which I believe is the Generation 1 hull (ie. has 50mm chines versus the Generation 2 1500mm chines).

I would like a relatively stable boat for fishing outside sydney.

Does anyone know why they changed the hull. Does it have stability issues or issues about getting up on the plane?

I am also loojing at the Haines series 600 or 610.

Feedback on the boat would be appreciated.

Thanks

[FishHunter]

Google says

http://www.boatpoint.com.au/reviews/...ater-2000-9580

http://www.marinews.com/details.php?recordid=163

http://www.boatsales.com.au/reviews/...s-mustang-9730

[ozscott]

I'm sure the are threads on here about the 2000 bluewater where there were some negative feedback and the odd positive one - have a search.

Cheers

[OPTI]

I believe they[tornament] widened the chines to try and stop the boat rolling on its side in turns,not a good feeling when the gunnel becomes the new keel,amongst other handling issues it has.

[Flex]

Contrary to popular belief, Reverse chines do absolutely nothing for a boats stability at rest so I'm lead to believe..

I remember speaking to a naval architect a few years back and he said reverse/flat chines only affect a boats performance at low speeds/turns and as a spray deflector. Obviously if you have 1m wide chines then yeah it will affect stability, but the 50-200mm chines on most boats do nothing for stability this guy was saying.

Further research of my own has shown the same statement from a few different naval architects.

[TheRealAndy]

Contrary to popular belief, Reverse chines do absolutely nothing for a boats stability at rest so I'm lead to believe..

I remember speaking to a naval architect a few years back and he said reverse/flat chines only affect a boats performance at low speeds/turns and as a spray deflector. Obviously if you have 1m wide chines then yeah it will affect stability, but the 50-200mm chines on most boats do nothing for stability this guy was saying.

Further research of my own has shown the same statement from a few different naval architects.

Stability comes from hull shape, ie put a pan in your sink and its quite stable, put a glass in you sink and it wants to tip over. A flat hull is more stable, but a deep v is not as stable. But then a flat hull is going to be no good when punching into big seas, and is also going to use more fuel.

Pick what is most valuable to you and work from there.

[scottd12345]

Thanks fellas...will keep on looking...nice looking boat and in good nick...but prefer a better hull...

[rainbow runner]

Hi scottd12345

I have sat back for a while with interest reading a few of these threads about the boat and thought it was worth reply

I have owned one for 5 years now and primarily use is for offshore fishing off Rainbow Beach/Fraser Island and Brisbane with other time being spent with family inshore fishing and cruising to places like Moreton Island and the Sandy Straights.

The boat is marketed as a family, all round boat with offshore capability. You can read more in the marketing and various press releases on the web etc.

We purchased the boat with this in mind as we have young kids and wanted the options for family trips, but also the ability to get outside.

That aside, I again say that our boat is used at present for probably well over 90% of the time for offshore trips.

Offshore wise we have covered well over a few thousand kilometres now in the boat , in a wide range of weather, rain/storms/squalls, seas, swell and bar crossing conditions from great to very rough over the last 5 years and it has not missed a beat.

Some of the trips we do at Rainbow are well over 250km’s of pure offshore work including overnighters, again in various conditions.

We fish with two to four big blokes and the boat is stable.

The boat is extremely fuel efficient in the various conditions and handles very well. (we run a 200 ETEC...dare I say ETEC).

We have found the boat has exceeded all our expectations and the feedback from the various crew who fish with me, whom have also owned various brands of boats and fished offshore etc for many years have been of high praise of the boat in the various conditions they have fished with me.

And I guess that's the most important thing, as long as I'm happy with it as it wasn't cheap.

We have had NO issues as stated such as digging in turns etc...this would be of concern, particularly with my kids/wife on board or crossing the bar.

While everyone has their opinions and are welcome to them, provided they are warranted, I can only comment on my experience of owning one and testing it in a variety of true sea conditions.

Feel free to PM me should you want further info.

PS

Put a photo up of some of the conditions, although the photo does not do it justice. This was 50plus km off Double Island Point....Anthony - Spot82...Just noticed we must have been only a few km away from each other on the day.

[Spot82]

Mark,

The photo i took that is similar to yours was taken back in near the bar, was some shocking weather that week!!

Having seen your boat in action, I think it handles pretty well, haven't been in it but from the outside looks like a decent hull.

Anthony

[rainbow runner]

Anthony

No dramas, we took our photo out at the spot we caught the coronation trout last year as the front was moving through.

Currently trying to organise a trip up to Rainbow, will give you a ring tomorrow

Mark