G'day everyone newby here so be gentle.
Recently sold a tinny & thinking about purchasing a VSea that has an old 70 johno on it. The johno is a bit suspect and the budget alows a repowering.
i'm considering the Yamaha 70 & the Tohatsu 70. Having no personal experience with tohatsu's just wondering what peoples opinions are - good & bad.
thanks in advance
Tickleish
welcome to ausfish . any new outboard is going to be good , so get the motor that has the best dealer in your area .
Stuie
IF IT CAN'T EAT A WHOLE PILLY I DON'T WANT IT
Welcome aboard Tickleish.
You've got yourself a good boat there, a classic. No rot in the transom, floor or stringers? I've got a Tohy and they are a great motor. Very solid and easy to work on. Nothing wrong with the yami either and either should work well with the Vsea.
In that case go with STUIE63 and whatever the best deal and continuing service you can get.
Cheers
Thanks for your reply stuie63 & Jarrah Jack.
Their's plenty of Yammie dealers to chose from & I've not heard anything bad about theTohatsu mob.
Jack - the boats very original but has been a little let down on maintance the last few years. Nothing a bit of TLC won't fix.
I'm with Stuie. both those donks are pretty much bullet proof so go with the best dealer in your area.
oh and to check the transom, just give it a tap with a hammer in various spots (not too hard or you might chip the gelcoat), should sound like you are hitting a very hard wood like cedar or spotted gum like a high pitched knock, if its a low pitched dull sort of thud sound you most likely have a bit of rot in their. stringers are a bit more difficult, you have to walk around the floor and try and 'feel' any soft spots, hard is good, soft is rot.
Hi there
I've had a Yammy 70 and a Tohatsu TLDI 90 on my last boat - both excellent bits of gear that would go well on the V-Sea.
I got 50% better fuel economy from the TLDI Tohatsu compared to the Yammy 70 on the same 4.8 m hull - these direct injection engines are brilliant - if you can afford the extra $.
I am also hearing very good reports about the new Yammy 70 4-stroke - apparently its a real gem.
Cheers
ML
I had a tohatsu 70hp and it was a great motor heaps of grunt and good on fuel
I recon the tohatsus are very underated and don't get the market share they probably deserve.
I've had a 70 yam for the last 9 years and its been great. Resale the yam probably has it over the toh if that matters. You wouldn't be disappointed with either. Go for price and what looks good to you.
The 70's are good on the vc but the 90's are really good, just got that instand punch.
Regards Wayne
The only people I have ever heard knock the toeys are people who have never owned em...everyone I know that has had em loves em. As others have said ....ALL new motors from the majors are good motors (and you can get the odd 'lemon' in all of them as well). Go for the best deal and back up service in your area ( I wouldnt like to put a 90 4stk on the back of a VSea...might be a tad too heavy).
go a bit extra and go for the 90 Yamaha, hardly any difference to the 70 in weight, but you have the extra HP when you want to get up and go! either motors will be fine, perhaps a slightly better resale with the yamaha if you wanted to think that far ahead.
Moonlighter, if i can stretch and get the TLDI i will but times are tough ( wife about to give birth to second child ). I've read a few reports on the new 70f and it sounds the goods but would wantto go in a test run on a boat of similar weight before taking the plunge - beside i'm a 2stroke fan.
Do you blokes think a 90 would chew more juice than a 70 or about the same.
it will be more fuel for a 90, but probably not all that much, both very similar motors, just be careful with motor weight in an old VC
Noelm, thats why i was edging towards the 70. The 90's in both those brands are about 25kg heavier.
Plenty of people run 2 stroke 90's on the V-Seas. They were kind of "standard" with the 70hp but I know several guys who opted up to the 90 Yammys or Toeys, and weight of those engines was not an issue.
I also recall quite a few years ago prior to the advent of DI and 4 strokes that the 90 Toey was rated most fiuel efficient engine in its class, and by quite a margin if I recall correctly. Since they are still basically the same motor I dont think much would have changed in that regard.
By the way, Yammy 90's I'm pretty sure come std with a SS prop whilst the Toey is alloy. If you want to compare apples with apples need to check that sort of thing and factor it in. The Toey alloy props I found to be fairly ordinary and soon changed to a Vengeance SS prop which made a huge difference.
Cheers
ML
I have a 50 TLDI Tohatsu and it is an excellent motor which seems to be very cheap to run
Mind you it is only on a 4.5 Brooker open tinny tiller steer so it aint working too hard
When I was running it in I did a 110k round trip on the murray and used 20 litres of fuel and bugger all oil, I don't know if that consumption is good or not but I was happy with it
That was an interesting point about the Tohatsu props Moonlighter, I think mine is propped about right but if there is an improvement to be had I'm all ears
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