V17 Haines rebuild - about to start

[Wayne_Red]

Have you checked the under side of the hull under the stringers for gelcoat cracks, dead give away for soft stringers. Be really sure there is no no rot or your project will be like building a brick house on sand. FNQ did a great with his floor on the rebuild but of course it comes with extra $
For sanding fg and old gelcoat I have used the really course 7" sanding discs lowest grit size you can get. Cutting through fg the 5" 1.0mm cut off discs are the go.
I feel itchy just looking at fnq's. grinding fg is like hitting your thumb with a hammer good when you stop.
A mate put a home made pod on his 17' milligan after he took out a stern drive. made it out of ply and glassed it over, wasn't flush with the bottom but added good boyancy. looked a bit rough but did the job
Good luck with it
Wayne

[death_ship]

they do sit low in the arse so i would go with the pod seeing as its already modified. the 115 will do the job just fine, i think i got around 36 knots at WOT and around 22 knots at 4000rpm cruising with the 115 4 yammy on my 17c. they are narrow and tender at rest and trim tabs would be an asset.

[dodgyone]

Mate. Youve got me excited enough to go and get the tape measure out this weekend. Might start knocking up a pod. Those Haines loose so much deck space with the regular transom set up.

[Si]

nice matt. i would be very interested in seeing the progress of this rebuild too. have you got a budget in mind? how much would a project like this cost if you dont mind me asking. i ask cos i have an old haines signature with variable dead rise hull and have floated the possibility of cutting the cabin away and turning it into a centre console with flat floors but in reality i know i wouldnt have the time or dosh.

mate as for tools - dont buy cheap stuff.

tip - when you cut the old floor out around the edges make sure you dont cut too deep or you may cut right though the hull.

[Jarrah Jack]

Mate. Youve got me excited enough to go and get the tape measure out this weekend. Might start knocking up a pod. Those Haines loose so much deck space with the regular transom set up.

You're right there dodgy I look at the setup of my 16r and wonder. Its got less fishing room than my 14 ft tinnie. Better send over that tape measure, you've really got me thinking now.

[matt fraser]

Have you checked the under side of the hull under the stringers for gelcoat cracks, dead give away for soft stringers. Be really sure there is no no rot or your project will be like building a brick house on sand. FNQ did a great with his floor on the rebuild but of course it comes with extra $
For sanding fg and old gelcoat I have used the really course 7" sanding discs lowest grit size you can get. Cutting through fg the 5" 1.0mm cut off discs are the go.
I feel itchy just looking at fnq's. grinding fg is like hitting your thumb with a hammer good when you stop.
A mate put a home made pod on his 17' milligan after he took out a stern drive. made it out of ply and glassed it over, wasn't flush with the bottom but added good boyancy. looked a bit rough but did the job
Good luck with it
Wayne

I've got more inspecting to do, I'm going to have to remove the floor completely as I want to raise it about 2 inches, so its level all the way to the edge. The gelcoat all looks sound though. Thanks for the tips on tools.

Matt

[matt fraser]

nice matt. i would be very interested in seeing the progress of this rebuild too. have you got a budget in mind? how much would a project like this cost if you dont mind me asking. i ask cos i have an old haines signature with variable dead rise hull and have floated the possibility of cutting the cabin away and turning it into a centre console with flat floors but in reality i know i wouldnt have the time or dosh.

mate as for tools - dont buy cheap stuff.

tip - when you cut the old floor out around the edges make sure you dont cut too deep or you may cut right though the hull.

I've got no idea how much its going to cost. Going into it blind. I did get a quote earlier on floor and transom replacement, 2 grand each. Thats why I'm doing it myself.

Anyone got a tip on a good place to buy ply, resin and fibreglass?

Cheers,

Matt

[dodgyone]

You're right there dodgy I look at the setup of my 16r and wonder. Its got less fishing room than my 14 ft tinnie. Better send over that tape measure, you've really got me thinking now.

Oh, I wouldnt worry about a 16r Jarrah, just sell me the 16r so I have something to fish with while the 17 is down. Can always find space for another classic Haines in the yard.

[Lucky_Phill]

Matt, this looks like an excuse for me to finally pop around.

I did a similar age Nova some time ago.

Did the complete strip and reno, every nut , bolt, paint, upholstery, trailer, fittings, etc, etc.

Luckily, I had a good hull to start with, but the rest was buggered.

It is always an enjoyable experience to do it yourself and the end result is, you know every little thing about the boat.

Cheers Phill
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[Si]

http://www.jeffwebster.com.au/shbw.html

you may have seen this before. this guy puts out some good mags that have a few good articles on DIY floor, stringers and transom replacements showing a step by step process with a heap of pictures. shows all the tools and equipment required. You can pick these up at a newsagent if they still have copies. need to get the right mag though - i think its the boat workshsop one. if they dont have have copies then you can order back copies through the website attached of which i have. very informative mags - not just about rebuilds.

[matt fraser]

Matt, this looks like an excuse for me to finally pop around.

I did a similar age Nova some time ago.

Did the complete strip and reno, every nut , bolt, paint, upholstery, trailer, fittings, etc, etc.

Luckily, I had a good hull to start with, but the rest was buggered.

It is always an enjoyable experience to do it yourself and the end result is, you know every little thing about the boat.

Cheers Phill.
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That would be great if you could come around Phill, I look forward to it.

Matt

[matt fraser]

http://www.jeffwebster.com.au/shbw.html

you may have seen this before. this guy puts out some good mags that have a few good articles on DIY floor, stringers and transom replacements showing a step by step process with a heap of pictures. shows all the tools and equipment required. You can pick these up at a newsagent if they still have copies. need to get the right mag though - i think its the boat workshsop one. if they dont have have copies then you can order back copies through the website attached of which i have. very informative mags - not just about rebuilds.

yep, thanks, I've been studying that one since before I bought the boat. Closest thing to a DIY boat rebuild manual.

Cheers,

Matt

[FNQCairns]

I found my 3 most beloved tools/bits where the metal cutting disks, the tungsten tipped blade that suits a 4 inch grinder and the belt sander. Without these 3 I would have walked away hardly started. With preparation as the key to locking new polyester to old for a high quality end result the belt sander made all the difference. I ruined 4 of those

First thing to buy is a high quality very well fitting mask that has replaceable particulate filters...cannot stress this high enough!! and always wear it.

The vacuum cleaner was also also a godsend.

[Wayne_Red]

This is the pod on the milligan. Simple but effective. Adds good bouyancy, really improved the boats performance, it just simply goes up on the plane with no hole at all to climb out of. + adds a mile of room inside. Motor doesn't sit low either.
Wayne

[Jarrah Jack]

Oh, I wouldnt worry about a 16r Jarrah, just sell me the 16r so I have something to fish with while the 17 is down. Can always find space for another classic Haines in the yard.

It would love to do a try out in those northern waters then go round to Darwin and show those GS's how to handle the chop.