Who has PERSONALLY experienced serious engine failure in the first 3-5 years

[ozscott]

Mate - I reckon they are personal enough...vote away my friend.

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[Chris_2184]

was heading out wide on mates kevlacat and one of twin 140hp zuki's came to a grinding metal crunching stop , second time it's happened on that same engine.

[ozscott]

Hope you voted Chris...

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[NAGG]

My 60 yammi - suffered catastrophic gearbox failure @ 18 hrs - Apparently there was an extra bit in there

Motor fixed and touch wood 350hrs of hassle free running to date

Chris

[NAGG]

Well ... The poll results dont surprise me (double the failures for ETEC over any other brand) .....
That would fit in with what I have heard around the traps - or from owners that I know.

made me shudder when I saw several ETECs with their heads off at a Sydney dealership a few years back .

Chris

[ozscott]

Well ... The poll results dont surprise me (double the failures for ETEC over any other brand) .....
That would fit in with what I have heard around the traps - or from owners that I know.

made me shudder when I saw several ETECs with their heads off at a Sydney dealership a few years back .

Chris

Mate - all we need now is for someone to post up (after substantial research!!!) the sales figures in Australia for those engines in the comparo above. Having said that it would be fair to say that Honda would sell significantly less motors than yamm and Merc and probably etec so the results are skewed somewhat accordingly when we are talking totals not percentages of engines sold. Having said that I cannot immagine that there have been more etec's sold than Merc on one hand or Yammy on the other so certainly the results indicate a higher failure rate for etec over other brands. Having said that one would expect that etec being recent tech might be a lot better in future with ongoing development, but then again the poll was open to all optimax where in the early days they had a reputation amongst the unkind as "poptimax" and had some real issus so you woud have to expect that people would have voted those early ones in in this poll...so again its hard to get away from the high failure rate of the ETEC in this poll.

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[NAGG]

Mate - all we need now is for someone to post up (after substantial research!!!) the sales figures in Australia for those engines in the comparo above. Having said that it would be fair to say that Honda would sell significantly less motors than yamm and Merc and probably etec so the results are skewed somewhat accordingly when we are talking totals not percentages of engines sold. Having said that I cannot immagine that there have been more etec's sold than Merc on one hand or Yammy on the other so certainly the results indicate a higher failure rate for etec over other brands. Having said that one would expect that etec being recent tech might be a lot better in future with ongoing development, but then again the poll was open to all optimax where in the early days they had a reputation amongst the unkind as "poptimax" and had some real issus so you woud have to expect that people would have voted those early ones in in this poll...so again its hard to get away from the high failure rate of the ETEC in this poll.

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Sales volume of each brand do skew results of these types of polls - but , when you talk to boaties (owners) ...... general consensus is Hondas reliability - Reasonably positive for Yamaha , ETECs power at the expense of reliability , Suzukis growing reputation & ..... not too much said about Optis (positive or negative).
But the standout is the unreliability of Etecs - too many require repairs / rebuilds / injectors.

Chris

[Jarrah Jack]

A good origional thread Ozscott, well done...Its not emperical and it could never be, so there will always be descrepencies sort out...I wonder if Etec Aus has found this thread. I know through experience that Honda Aus has found a thread here were its name was mentioned, did it what!..So I'd be surprised if other brands don't have similiar lookouts in their search engines going straight to the marketing people.

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[grayzeee]

honda - a cut above the rest

[ozscott]

Thanks Gents. As has been pointed out to me along the way there are issues with the Poll and I understand those, but I reckon it does have value.

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PS. Market feedback can be a great motivator to a manufacturer who is listening.

[davo]

I think you should add Tohatsu TLDI/4stroke and all the 2 stroke variations

[Noelm]

I kind of doubt you would get too many old fashioned carby 2 strokes that have had a major drama from new (ish) they are simple and tried and tested technology, so to include them is probably not going to add anything, and most manufacturers no longer have them anyway.

[ozscott]

I agree Noel...they just keep banging on, smoking away, and offending the greenies.

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[ozscott]

I will bounce this one back up given the ETEC thread...

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[eumundiemu]

This may lead to another poll------was the dealer helpful