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    Ausfish Bronze Member
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    Re: New 4WD and paint protection

    I like your signature Kim.
    I'm sure Satan thinks that with me.
    At least my ex-husband did.

  2. #17

    Re: New 4WD and paint protection

    Quote Originally Posted by Synful View Post
    Geez, thanks Tim - now there's a man who thinks like me and never a truer word spoken!!
    G'day,

    But you bought a black one and you will be forever polishing out the tiny scratches that would never show on a white or pale silver car.

    I suggest that you get the rust prrofing oil sprayed all over it and NEVER wash it off. That should preserve it forever, nobody will ever steal it and that give you heaps more time for fishing.

    We have solutions for every problem!

    Regards,

    White Pointer

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    Andrew we have an 2002 model car here that had a hard paint protection covering of some type sprayed on it when bought new, it certainly works! I do not like the way they covered plastic as well as some discolouration can be seen but the paint proper is still in tip top condition because of whatever was sprayed on it.

    It scratches white (black car), can be buffed out to disappear where if it where bare paint a person could be in trouble, i only bothered to try on one because of what the car is to us but think it could be brought back to near new even now.

    if you ever plan to actually use the 4wd in the future and got a specialist spray shop to do the job I guess when you do sell it might more than pay for it's self.

    For the first and often the second owner the underbody/rust sprays are nothing but rip as are those electronic rust protection thingies...ever read the disclaimers in warranty on those things!!

    PS if you buy your new car never never ever never ever use a cutting compound on it and never never ever let anyone 'professional' like a detailer use a cutting compound on it either...ever never ever!!!...unless it's a repair job. Hope i am not coming across too soft:cheesy::smiley:

    I like these new smilies



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    Ausfish Platinum Member lippa's Avatar
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    why no cutting compound? i cut the christ outa my 2 new prado's to help reduce the peel in them. if its done properly and followed up with lighter compounds to combat the swirls a heavy creates, it looks awesome!!!!! in the wrong hands, it will be a disaster.

    here a story i did a while back, might help ya.
    http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/sho...d.php?t=151824

    cheers lippa

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Pointer View Post
    G'day,

    But you bought a black one and you will be forever polishing out the tiny scratches that would never show on a white or pale silver car.
    Very true WP; however I couldn't say no, the black is just so bad ass and looks awesome - at least I have something to do now on the days when I have to baby sit the kids and or the weather goes to shit stopping me getting the tinny out :wink:

    I intend to have the vehicle for the next 10 years anyway, so it will be getting a good lovin' with fortnightly washing and waxing whether or not I like it.
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  6. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by FNQCairns View Post
    Andrew we have an 2002 model car here that had a hard paint protection covering of some type sprayed on it when bought new, it certainly works! I do not like the way they covered plastic as well as some discolouration can be seen but the paint proper is still in tip top condition because of whatever was sprayed on it.

    It scratches white (black car), can be buffed out to disappear where if it where bare paint a person could be in trouble, i only bothered to try on one because of what the car is to us but think it could be brought back to near new even now.

    if you ever plan to actually use the 4wd in the future and got a specialist spray shop to do the job I guess when you do sell it might more than pay for it's self.
    Thanks Scott;

    I ended up not going for any paint protection as my reasoning was thus:

    "Sooner or later be it from a stone chip, trolley, or a hanging vine; the paint work is going to get chipped, scratched or generally damaged".

    Now the thing is that none of these things was covered in the warranty by the paint protection and the aftermarket chick couldn't come up with anything to disagree with me so she backed off on that one. Hell, we don't buy a 4WD to have it sitting the driveway "looking pretty"...

    Let's face it, if we go off road, then the likelihood of something scratching the car is pretty high and spending $xxxx on paint protection when the warrantly doesn't cover it is silly considering that the protection has to be re-applied at my cost. If I was buying an XR6/HSV or a sedan then yes, I could see some wisdom in getting it, but not on a 4WD.

    I will be parking away from the crowds at shopping centres so I don't have to deal with the soccer mom with the brat that HAS to push the trolley which manages to go right along the side of my car; might lose a bit of the gut as well that way :rolleyes:

    I did spring for the sound deadening and also the underbody rust spray as well, this should cover that pretty well.

    Once i get the tax cheque back; I'll be springing for an ARB bullbar and a UHF radio and she'll be pretty much fully kitted out at that point.:cool:
    Regards,



    Andrew.
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  7. #22

    Re: New 4WD and paint protection

    Good luck with the colour - I've had a hate/hate relationship with a black mica subaru over the last few years.
    Enjoy taking a long loving last look at it at the dealers - cause it ain't going to look that good again.......

  8. #23

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    Good you have it all sorted Andrew sounds good, bet you cannot wait! finally a 4wd that can tow my boat to the ramp for overnighters



  9. #24

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    Quote Originally Posted by FNQCairns View Post
    Good you have it all sorted Andrew sounds good, bet you cannot wait! finally a 4wd that can tow my boat to the ramp for overnighters
    Yeah, got that right - down to close to a month now pending no hold ups in shipping / customs should have it in my possession by the 29th May with a bit of luck.

    It's the only Ranger getting to Cairns before the end of June by the looks of it; last one they got here didn't even last a day before it was sold...
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  10. #25

    Re: New 4WD and paint protection

    Be very wary of electronic rust systems.
    I had a unit fitted and the car went very rusty.
    When I complained to the manufacturer he gave a spray can of fisholene!
    Some may work but how are you going to know?

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    Ausfish Platinum Member gr hilly's Avatar
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    i do know it is a giant ripp off the best protection for your paint is a product called liquid polymer sealant you apply like car polish once you have used it you will see what happens when you wash your car the dirt or salt just hoses off and i still recon spray under with diesel and drive on a dirt road and then repeat the process it has stopped my 25 yr old land cruiser getting rust and i go on the beach all the time i do this twice a year.
    hilly

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    Re: New 4WD and paint protection

    Quote Originally Posted by lippa View Post
    why no cutting compound? i cut the christ outa my 2 new prado's to help reduce the peel in them. if its done properly and followed up with lighter compounds to combat the swirls a heavy creates, it looks awesome!!!!! in the wrong hands, it will be a disaster.

    here a story i did a while back, might help ya.
    http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/sho...d.php?t=151824

    cheers lippa
    Yeah i guess it's each to their own but if one is to keep the car it's the only plan, only way the paint will still shine like new in 30 years time all other things being equal.

    Every day i see older cars on the road with faded through paint for being loved to death by the early owners armed with a cutting compound, these are always right along the easy parts of each panel to reach, the middle of the bonnet and roof for instance will still look as good as the day it was made ...if a polishing was still worth it.

    Polish is all that's ever need, one with a mineral base preferred then a person can go from there with a wax but for me waxing is a waste of my life I prefer a once a year polish applied every 6 months.



  13. #28

    Re: New 4WD and paint protection

    Quote Originally Posted by gr hilly View Post
    i do know it is a giant ripp off the best protection for your paint is a product called liquid polymer sealant you apply like car polish once you have used it you will see what happens when you wash your car the dirt or salt just hoses off and i still recon spray under with diesel and drive on a dirt road and then repeat the process it has stopped my 25 yr old land cruiser getting rust and i go on the beach all the time i do this twice a year.
    hilly
    Hilly, what's the best way to spray the diesel? used to do the same with boat trailers, a brush had those covered.

    I have been using Nu finish polymer, on one car I bought almost new in the late 80s i kept in various forms of use from everyday to unregistered and stored down the back under a fruit bat tree until just 3 years ago when I gave the reliable old girl away, nu finish kept the paint like new even till the last and i only applied it twice a year and inbetween the rain washed it clean!

    Not the same stuff i know but the same result I suspect.



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    Ausfish Platinum Member Jabba_'s Avatar
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    Re: New 4WD and paint protection

    Quote Originally Posted by BenDover View Post
    I wouldnt even bother with the rust sprays/injections. Definately get the electric rust proofing though. You can never stop the rust just slow it down and with electronic it takes roughly 7 times longer.

    A mate about 10 years ago got a electronic rust system cheap if he promoted it and displayed it to all the guys at his 4x4 club. He sand blasted 2 towballs back to bare metal and we went up the beach for a week. 1 was hooked up and 1 wasnt. After 1 night you could see the rust starting to form. After 3 nights it had a coating all over it. After a week even after wire brushing it, it had gone deep into the steel. Nothing at all on the electrolic 1 even after driving it into salt water.

    The more you get to know your 4x4 the better you will find all the places sand and mud will hide.
    Mid Febuary my trailer jumped off my tow ball and the anchor plowerd straight into my tail gate denting it and gouging right back to bare metal... I have electronic rust proofing and 10 weeks later there is not one spot off surface rust on the bare metal gouges.. I live 1km from the broadwater, and my Navara spends its weekends at the boat ramp....

    Electronic rust proofing is the best money I have spent on the Navara...

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    Ausfish Platinum Member
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    Yep, exactly right Jabba_, There are good ones and cheap ass bad ones. I think the 1 crocodile is refering too is the ones that have anoids fitted to every panel that claim that the rust is drawn to the anoids and it rusts instead of the panel itself. Which is B/S. There is only about 3 good ones made for 4x4's. But, this being a boating and fishing site aswell. Im sure there are heaps of guys that have different types.

    As a side note. Dont EVER use fisholine on your 4x4 (channels, chassi, whatever) As what happens is it sticks like you know what to a blanket. And all the sand and salt mixes and sticks to the oil. Then the oil dries out leaving an extremely hard surface to clean with serious rust issues if not addressed in time.

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