Tsunami Warning Sunday 0815

[TimiBoy]

I took the warning relatively seriously. I didn't go on the water. I did some work instead, and while my wife cooked dinner I drank a bottle of good red wine.

Never once did I give thought to social experiments or beach nazis overstepping the mark.

I knew full well that folk would still get on and in the water, and hoped their decision would be right. It was. LOL, I knew Bill would be out there, he'd see a decent tsunami as a challenge! I can just hear the instructions on how to ride up the front, what angle to crest it with, when to cut the engine...

The warnings we received were accurate, based on the information at hand. When new information was available, we were updated. Constantly. The web, including BOM, did a fine job.

Cheers,

Tim

[tigermullet]

"Issuing such orders is overstepping the mark. I hope they are not beginning to believe their own PR and pretending to be more than they actually are - a group of volunteers with no more specialist knowledge than the rest of the informed community in an event like this."

On behalf of the many volounteer organisations I find that statement extremely offensive. They may not have the specialist knowledge of the science relating to the event, the same as they arent weather forecasters, or stormchasers. They are, however, chartered to save our sorry arses/property when the manure does hit the turbines. I for one, dont blame them one bit for trying to minimize the potential for injury/death/property damage. As for the theory of it being just the governments way of testing the warning system....well....I dont have a problem with that either.....imagine how much life would NOT have been lost if we had a similar warning system in place for the black saturday fires.....I know its not the same scenario.....or is it??

Greg

And I find it offensive when they step outside their 'charter' of saving and begin ordering people about. Who put them in charge of deciding to limit freedom of choice and action?

If not stamped out, will the VMR/AVCG also decide to stop people launching their boats if the wind speed or conditions do not meet with their assessment of acceptable risk?

[Heath]

LOL
Limiting of freedom of choice and action......

I believe the volunteer organisations should have the same freedom of choice and action when some fool ignores the warnings & then expects the VMR / SES / Lifesavers etc to come and save their sorry ass when things go pear shaped after ignoring a warning.

[Lucky_Phill]

Did anyone get a result ? Wave rider buoy height ?

any news on this ?



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[FNQCairns]

Hence again why are in dire need of a competent federal human rights act/bill, will create a universal framework that government agencies/departments can instead of being lost in the schizophrenic power of it will be forced all work within individually enforceable guidelines to respect the basic rights and freedoms first and last.

It's on it's way just more important things like the ets and broadband and green zones....keep getting in the sovereigns way.

cheers fnq

[tigermullet]

LOL
Limiting of freedom of choice and action......

I believe the volunteer organisations should have the same freedom of choice and action when some fool ignores the warnings & then expects the VMR / SES / Lifesavers etc to come and save their sorry ass when things go pear shaped after ignoring a warning.

Are you saying that you would be happy for a recently qualified member of any volunteer organisation to take away your freedom of choice - taking away your rights and, ultimately, your very freedom?

Do you really want to get approval from a host of volunteer organisations before you do anything?

Why take their risk assessment instead of depending upon your own?

If your views were widely accepted we would slip into a totalitarian state.

I'm about to leave for ten days on the boat and the forecast is for wet and windy conditions during the next couple of days. I do not expect a uniformed volunteer in the car park to deny me the right to launch my dinghy.

Keep on thinking that volunteer groups should have that right and pretty soon we might have seek approval to do anything.

[Marlin_Mike]

Persoanlly i think they did the right thing releasing the warning. Closing the ebaches may have bheen over kill?

If they dont release the warning and it happens, who then is barking for thier heads???????????????????? Damned if the do and damned if they dont with some people.

VMR/AVCG never had and never will have policing rights to deny you from launching in any weather. They may advise you but ultimately its your decision wether to launch or not.

Interestingly, you go to sea on a wether warning or tsunami warning - see how quick your insurance company supports you if soemthing happens during a warning and you put to sea.


Mike

[Sandman]

I can not believe this discussion even needs to take place, i am totally in line with Tim and Mike. Imagine this thread if something happened and nothing was said!!! Marine conditions can vary for many reasons quiet simply we are aware of the effects of any earthquake and 8.8 is no small quake and yep the effects could be felt as far as Aus. There are quakes each day and not far off our shoreline, we could have thees shutting down the beaches each time they occur but we dont, think yourselves lucky that we have abit of advanced warning compared to some other nations.I have family very close to highly active volcanoes and Tsunamies are a real concern.

[nigelr]

Personally I'd much prefer to forego my freedom of choice in the circumstance whereby another person may be obligated to put their life at risk because of my chosen actions.....
Much easier for my conscience to deal with should things go wrong.....
Cheers!

[oldboot]

Back to the point...I do not believe that any of us would complain about a warning IF it was accurate, bassed on current information and all those reporting and acting upon the warning did so in due measure to the likely consequences.


What is realy realy offencive is footage of a uniformed life saver standing over an on innocent person ( probaly an asian tourist) ........sitting way up the beach ( probaly above high water) and badgering him till he left the beach....... as if he was some sort of night club bouncer

OR likewise

footage of a sign written surf life saving vehicle using loud speakers to order people off what in essence is a perfectly safe beach......not swimmers.......walkers, runners & sitters.

All this in the light of a forecast from modeling that had been proven to be close to accurate in several countries several hours earlier.
A forecast from the get go described no land bassed consequences of a possible maximum 200mm rise in sea level on our shores.

sorry I'm beating this again.... but the whole issue sits there with its @#$% sticking out saying hit me.

AND someone has the hide to go out a critisise surfers and boaties for going out in such "potentially dangerous situations".

cheers

[oldboot]

silly sillier sillest

Is my hearing crook or is some one saying we need a Tsunami warning siren system for the gold coast beaches.

cheers

[Marlin_Mike]

you heard right oldboot..........what a crock of shyte........sirens?????????????

[banksmister]

These old boys would be whinging an moaning about getting a root...

Can someone organise one ffs
And while there waiting have a listen to a song by
WEDDINGS PARTIES ANYTHING [MONDAYS EXPERT]
I was at sth straddie on Saturday night 2 kids and the better half
After listening to the radio on the boat all night [no sleep]
Wasn’t a real hard choice stay and be a hero or look after the people I love
Left at 430 am
If this is the worst thing that happens to me this year I will have a good year

[Jabba_]

you heard right oldboot..........what a crock of shyte........sirens?????????????

It wont happen..

Ron and his cronies will be turfed out at our next council election....

[Mike Delisser]

Every Patrolled beach already has sirens (shark), Kings at Caloundra has had one you can hear well over 2km away for 20+ years.