care about barras in the future?

[ifishcq1]

For those of you that don't know, Bill Sawynok is probably the most knowledgable person in the world as far as reef fish and especially barramundi goes
He and his team have and are still collecting data to help preserve or improve our fishing future. if you want forms pm me with your email address and I will give you a form. this is not political other than backing the rec fishers with facts as we move forward. do yourself a favour and google capreef and captag
CapReef wants your Barramundi frames and trip details

The Barramundi season is due to open in less than 2 weeks. I expect that you will be gearing up now in readiness for the opening.

As part of CapReef we want to collect as much information as possible on Barramundi catches and collect as many frames as possible from Barramundi that have been kept.

If you are already submitting trip details then please continue to do so for all trips regardless of whether you caught Barramundi or not. If you haven't been submitting trips I would encourage you to do so. This information is important if we are to understand the status of our fish stocks. If you are submitting tag details please continue to do so. A simplified trip form is included for trip details (only use this if you are not using the Suntag e-trip form - you don't need to fill out both forms).

Please measure all Barramundi, especially those that you keep.

Just fill out a form for each trip and email to suntag@info-fish.net. If you keep frames just ring toll free 1800-077-001 and we will arrange to collect. We still have a few t-shirts, drinks coolers and lures to give away.

Please pass this on to anyone else that targets Barramundi.

All the best for the upcoming season

Bill Sawynok
CapReef/Suntag

We need more people with this kind of initiative if we want to have a fishing future

cheers

[FNQCairns]

For those of you that don't know, Bill Sawynok is probably the most knowledgable person in the world as far as reef fish and especially barramundi goes
He and his team have and are still collecting data to help preserve or improve our fishing future. if you want forms pm me with your email address and I will give you a form. this is not political other than backing the rec fishers with facts as we move forward. do yourself a favour and google capreef and captag
CapReef wants your Barramundi frames and trip details

The Barramundi season is due to open in less than 2 weeks. I expect that you will be gearing up now in readiness for the opening.

As part of CapReef we want to collect as much information as possible on Barramundi catches and collect as many frames as possible from Barramundi that have been kept.

If you are already submitting trip details then please continue to do so for all trips regardless of whether you caught Barramundi or not. If you haven't been submitting trips I would encourage you to do so. This information is important if we are to understand the status of our fish stocks. If you are submitting tag details please continue to do so. A simplified trip form is included for trip details (only use this if you are not using the Suntag e-trip form - you don't need to fill out both forms).

Please measure all Barramundi, especially those that you keep.

Just fill out a form for each trip and email to suntag@info-fish.net. If you keep frames just ring toll free 1800-077-001 and we will arrange to collect. We still have a few t-shirts, drinks coolers and lures to give away.

Please pass this on to anyone else that targets Barramundi.

All the best for the upcoming season

Bill Sawynok
CapReef/Suntag

We need more people with this kind of initiative if we want to have a fishing future

cheers

Because of the way it was market above I feel the need to put the organisation into a more grass roots angler perspective.

capreef is not the anglers friend, they have handshakes with zealot organisations, data retrieved from the already disenfranchised Angler will be handed/shared to the very government department and zealot organisations we have been trying to fight for 10 years and loosing badly.

If any one of the 'scientists' lost their job they would straight away be applying to the conservation council, frdc, universities etc or any of the other know anglers enemys who are still whole heartedly in favour of all levels of lockouts and have never ever spoke an honest word in our favour or in any way against the extreme green religion machine that pays their wage but have taken so much from us already without any scientific basis.....with much more to come.

In the interests of information and each to their own what they decide but gee I hate the way they are marketed as in any way our friends.

cheers fnq

[ifishcq1]

Crap fnq
you speak with no foundation what so ever
mostly you are close but this time a lack of knowledge on this subject shines through
this time your cynical view is from an uneducated stance

[FNQCairns]

Crap fnq
you speak with no foundation what so ever
mostly you are close but this time a lack of knowledge on this subject shines through
this time your cynical view is from an uneducated stance

Than please educate me, who will the data be shared with, what other "NGO" oganisations is this organisation a "friend of".

Who lobbied to lock up the reef with no evidence, who lobbied to lock up MB, GSS, which organisations have spoken out on the anglers behalf throughout all these social engineering episodes (at best).

What degree of inlaw angler oversight does this organisation see?? Why do they even have the money to do this research while in anyway representing the anglers side.

+ everything I have already said.

Is anyone who gains their pay-packets this way even remotely capable of speaking the name Dr Walter Stark out loud?

I am serious please educate me I hate knowing who and why we gotten shafted over 15 years of observation and even working within a fishery's research cooperative.

cheers fnq

[ifishcq1]

Well FNQ it was Bill and crew who got our green zones changed to help the local anglers in CQ and they lobby against changes that don't work for rec fishers if you have solid evidence proving capreef or captag has used their data to be counter to rec fishers interests
put up or shut up, simple

cheers

[FNQCairns]

Well FNQ it was Bill and crew who got our green zones changed to help the local anglers in CQ and they lobby against changes that don't work for rec fishers if you have solid evidence proving capreef or captag has used their data to be counter to rec fishers interests
put up or shut up, simple

cheers

i remember the zoning change it was not quite so cut and dry as you state if memory serves.

I also never said they used their data to counter Anglers interests i ask who gets to use this data and a multitude of other questions above and beyond the brochure level marketing we are expected to just swallow.

This way anglers can make up their own minds, i understood this would never be forthcoming even when I asked, I may own to some degree an understanding how this area works but others might not.

I do not take environmental government money nor do i know anyone presently or personally who does but I am an Angler...so i have the latitude to ponder or ask anything.

cheers fnq

[TheRealAndy]

Than please educate me, who will the data be shared with, what other "NGO" oganisations is this organisation a "friend of".

Who lobbied to lock up the reef with no evidence, who lobbied to lock up MB, GSS, which organisations have spoken out on the anglers behalf throughout all these social engineering episodes (at best).

What degree of inlaw angler oversight does this organisation see?? Why do they even have the money to do this research while in anyway representing the anglers side.

+ everything I have already said.

Is anyone who gains their pay-packets this way even remotely capable of speaking the name Dr Walter Stark out loud?

I am serious please educate me I hate knowing who and why we gotten shafted over 15 years of observation and even working within a fishery's research cooperative.

cheers fnq

Bill is not a government organisation, nor is capreef run by government. Capreef is run by Infofish Services and Bill owns the data. Infofish will prepare reports for governemnt departments based on the data they have. Often the government will pay Bill to do specific research, but he keeps the data.

I would plead with you to take a look at http://www.info-fish.net/ and read some of Bills reports. IT is some of the most comprehensive data I have ever seen. It supports what rec anglers have been saying for years.

Why have we been getting shafted? Its because the government listens to who makes the most noise. They don't care what is right or wrong, they care about getting votes (except Anna of course, who knows what is going on inside her head).

[sleepygreg]

I have known Bill Sawynok for close to 20 years...through his research and data bases, as well as personal contact. If there is ANYONE who fits the criteria that all the naysayers on this forum reckon "we should be doing and taking notice of" its Bill. He is absolutely PRO the rec angler....and gathers his data through proven scientific methods..to support his stance ON OUR SIDE.

From the tone of some peoples posts...it seems like they dont trust ANYONE who gathers information/data.....so where does that leave us. In an Ideal world where all the 'good guys' do this for out of the goodness of their heart (pray tell who then puts the food on their table, a roof over their head, provides the equipment for them to use). Not gonna happen.

Sounds like you are blaming the people gathering the data, and putting the proposals together - then losing the battle.....because the govt decided to ignore that and go for the greenie vote.

Its no wonder people just couldnt be bothered with it all......why would you want continually cop all the crap from backseat critics when all you are trying to do is what you think is right for both yourself and your fellow fishos.


Damn.....two rants in two nights...bugga.

Greg

[Scott Mitchell]

Its no wonder people just couldnt be bothered with it all......why would you want continually cop all the crap from backseat critics when all you are trying to do is what you think is right for both yourself and your fellow fishos.


Damn.....two rants in two nights...bugga.

Greg

Hows your pop corn & chip supply coping

Regards Scotto

[FNQCairns]

Thanks for the reply, looks like I should stand corrected and I sincerely hope I do, if what I read above (will get to the link later) this would make for the first honest marine data gathering/research organisation so without the ideological end aim of preservation as it's mean for existence.

Still to see who are this organisations 'friends' on paper and why/who they give away data to in exchange for their wage etc. Also why on balance do they make for an Anglers friend.



cheers fnq

[TheRealAndy]

Thanks for the reply, looks like I should stand corrected and I sincerely hope I do, if what I read above (will get to the link later) this would make for the first honest marine data gathering/research organisation so without the ideological end aim of preservation as it's mean for existence.

Still to see who are this organisations 'friends' on paper and why/who they give away data to in exchange for their wage etc. Also why on balance do they make for an Anglers friend.



cheers fnq

The good thing about Bills data is that a lot of it points to blanket fixed green zones being a complete waste of time. In my opinion, it also shows significant flaws in the modelling and data the DPI is using to estimate moreton bay snapper stocks. No doubt it would also discredit a lot of models used for NQ fisheries as well.

[ifishcq1]

Fnq
My reply before was probably a bit rash and we do need people to question so everyone gets the answers
Here is what I spoke to Bill about his morning
CapReef is run by recreational fishers - not a government agency or researchers. It primary aim is to provide real information to everyone so that informed debate can take place. Locally in CQ CapReef is well respected and trusted by recreational fishers as it is one of the few places that recfishers can get real information about their local fishery other than from government. Local fishers readily provide fishing trip details and we have over 14,000 trips logged over the past 4 years.


I hope this little piece and what the others have said helps get support in the right areas`


Cheers

[sleepygreg]

Run out of the rock deli chilli chips....back to the sea salt ones now.