I will give you 2 recent examples
My son was comming of age and a car was needed, I would never buy him a new one, as I believe that when he can learn to look after an old one then he can buy his new one

I visit a lot of customers and would ask around for a 2nd hand car there were a few around but I had time on my hands and money if I needed.
One customer directed me to one of his employees that I knew that had an old Corolla, he said if Jeff owns this it will be in perfect condition when I spoke to Jeff he wanted it gone, his daughter had a new car now and did not know what it was worth.
Drove past and had a look " nice little car with Mags" mmm mags and tires must have cost $1500
took my son around and he did not want an old 1993 model "tough sh*t"
When he saw it he liked it, asked the price what do you thinks its worth, I act dumb like I don't know, but I know its worth 3.5K to 4K, I have done my research
Long story short
I got it for $700 without any bargaining and he cleaned it for me.
2 years later its still running Sweet and my son still loves it, he wants to sell it and buy a new car for quick sale 2k

I was looking for a small boat for my son for crabbing, some people on ebay etc were selling boats
All wanted too much called a few people but most were not negotiable.
Found 4 weeks ago a bloke advertising a tinny for $1200 spoke to him and got a good feeling went and had a look and I know the value should be about 2.5k roughly if the condition is right
Arrived and you bloody beauty perfect condition, chat for a while about the boat he's genuine, I offer him $1100 and I will draw the money now "deal done" son arrives and winks at me, he knows we found a bargain because we know what we are looking for, nice gent throws in a sounder
3.1m tinny perfect condition, 15hp evinrude perfect running, trailer no rust life jackets anchors
He never got ripped off and I picked up a bargain.
If you rush into some-thing without research you will get nailed..

NOTHING TO DO THIS MORNING ?? WHICH IS PRETTY ODD

Cheers
Mark