Selling My Boat.....WTF???? Stupid Offers

[odes20]

Hi All

I sold my last boat and a couple of engines out of my current boat, all sight unseen. The boat was through Trailer Boat, to a guy in Melbourne (From the NSW Mid Norh Coast) after all the pain in the arse offers and guys telling me it was too expensive (Well go and buy somone elses then! Don't whinge to me about it.) I told him that the boat doesn't go anywhere until the money was in my account and cleared, after which I took it to get it put on the truck. It was a little stressful at the time, and I told him that I would much prefer that he came to look at it, but he refused and sent the money through.Then he started with stuff like he needed the rego papers so he could transfer it down there before the money had cleared..... NO CHANCE, the rego papers will be signed and in the boat when it gets there. ... It all worked out okay but I wasn't comfortable at the time.

The engines were on ebay, and were bought by a malaysian guy that was working in darwin. I Specified that they were pickup only but he wanted them sent to Malaysia. ( I was thinking SCAM for sure by this point). I wanted to get rid of them so told him to send the money and once I received it, I would bolt them onto pallets and tell him where they could be picked up from... he had to organise the shipping. Once again the money came through, the engines were picked up by a transport company and I never heard another word from him?

So two cases of the other side where things seem like scams but aren't. I just make it clear that nothing goes anywhere without me having money. Then again I think I have been lucky and don't know if I would push my luck again!


Scott

One thing to be careful of here also is don't recieve the payment in such a case by credit card especially from many parts of Aisia as it it has been paid for by a stolen credit card direct to you, the banks will reverse it when its discovered and take the money off you! Never take payment like this thru a Credit Card. Get a Direct deposit or Paypal or something else secure
John

[PADDLES]

direct funds transfers are the safest i reckon (electronically straight into your bank account).

even bank cheques aren't sacred these days. i had a mate wave goodbye to a guy who bought his car with a fake bank cheque, he at least got to see it again each time the mailman delivered red light camera fines, a gateway bridge photo and numerous speed camera photos. he wasn't happy at all, and you can't even begin to imagine how hard it is to explain what happened to your insurance company in order to get them to pay up.

[TimiBoy]

direct funds transfers are the safest i reckon (electronically straight into your bank account).

even bank cheques aren't sacred these days. i had a mate wave goodbye to a guy who bought his car with a fake bank cheque, he at least got to see it again each time the mailman delivered red light camera fines, a gateway bridge photo and numerous speed camera photos. he wasn't happy at all, and you can't even begin to imagine how hard it is to explain what happened to your insurance company in order to get them to pay up.

Advice taken recently:

"Not likely to be claimable. The offence committed is not theft, it is fraud (passing a fake cheque). You gave them the car, handed them the keys... You have to find them and take them to Court."

"Not a definitive statement, and the Insurance Co may treat it as a theft, but they also may not."

Big risk to take. Cash, transfer, or no deal.

Cheers,

Tim

[PADDLES]

my mate was lucky, after a great deal of pain the insurance company looked after him. he learnt a hard lesson for all of us mates actually, if any of us are flogging anything off now, it doesn't leave the driveway until there's cleared funds in the account.

[bennyboy]

We had Club Marine insurance in the other day and they were talking about the rise of boat re-birthing, aparetly there is about 10 cases currently being investigated in Queensland. You want to be very careful checking Vin and Hin numbers, look for possible filing or restamping. Check where the HIN should be stamped on the boat as it may have been removed and put in a unusual place. If you buy a stolen boat you don't have a leg to stand on.

[Chris1984]

I make stupid offers on ebay all the time and boy do i get some bargains. This guy had a 4 metre clark advertised on ebay a few weeks ago that had been modified by riptide boats, full side decks, welded in rod holders, front and rear casting decks on a good trailer and he wanted 3 grand for it without the engine (2002 yamaha 25 cv) offered him 2 grand for the lot WITH MOTOR and he snapped it up. Picked it up same afternoon, put rego on trailer and boat, fised some wiring up and sold it for $4500 5 days later on ebay.

[The-easyrider]

I am not wanting to upset or insult anybody but I have bought some great stuff at great prices by offering silly prices, once bought a block of land at about 1/2 price because that was my offer as that was what it was worth to me, good luck with the sale

[FishHunter]

I hate arsehats who make stupid offers, if I wanted a lot less I would have advertised it for a lot less.
I once sold a car that was a very good deal but I had to raise the price by 3k just to give myself wriggle room to get what I wanted.

I also wont haggle over the phone show up cash in hand and we can talk if you cant or wont then pay the asked price, too many pricks that spend the day phoning people trying to screw desperate people.

[terryc]

I sold a boat a few years back and accepted a bank cheque, however i insisted that i accompany the buyer to a branch of his bank near me and watched whilst he got the bank cheque, a friend of mine who sells a few cars suggested this was the safest way next to bank transfer

[marty666]

I hate arsehats who make stupid offers, if I wanted a lot less I would have advertised it for a lot less.
I once sold a car that was a very good deal but I had to raise the price by 3k just to give myself wriggle room to get what I wanted.

I also wont haggle over the phone show up cash in hand and we can talk if you cant or wont then pay the asked price, too many pricks that spend the day phoning people trying to screw desperate people.

That is why there are silly offers cause people always over inflate the price to get what they wanted in the first place. My first 2 boats put in sill offers and bought my first boat for 50% of asking price and 2nd on at 20% over the net it is now easier to give a silly offer cause you dont have to look some one in the eyes.

If i am going to put in a silly off it is always cash and a price will be sorted before i even look at it cause i am not going to waste my time as well as some one elses.

[PADDLES]

yep ........... don't ask ............... don't get

[Jabba_]

Got my boat 10k below the asking price.. First offer was 12.5k below, which was rejected.. 2nd offer was 10k below and I would drop 3k into their bank account that day as the deposit, and Ill be at their boat yard at opening time Sat morning for a water test.. If all goes well I'll pay the ballance via a bank cheque and take the boat straight away... Offer accepted...

The next day, I drove to Newcastle, stayed there over night and drove back with my Seafarer...

[Little Mac]

I recently sold my ute to a guy in North QLD, he called me and offered a cash offer without looking at it, I didn't really believe he would buy it but the day before he was due to pick it up he asked if I could meet him at the airport so he could drive it back up North. I said OK and met him, he paid cash without even inspecting the car and drove away. I think some people just have a bit to much faith in others (until they get the dirty done on them).

[justlovefishing]

A couple of years back I sold my motor bike to a bloke from toowoomba off ebay. had a few offers and this bloke rang asked a few questions settlet on price $500 under what I wanted., Got on a plane flew to rocky paid for the bike at the airport signed all the rego transfer etc and rode straight home. I was happy and he rang when he got home and was very pleased . Never saw the bike until he landed in rocky apart from photos.

[RAGINGBULL]

Its a 2 way street
You have a number of types of sellers
The quick sale bloke who wants to get rid of his gear and wants the item gone quickly and prepared to look at any offers
The bloke who researches the value of his item and then expects to sell for that value
The bloke who knows the value and tries to oversell to make as much as he can

Buyers are
Chancers who are like dogs chasing cars when the car stops they dont know what to do with the tyre
Bargain hunters, prepared to wheel and deal " nothing wrong with that"
Buyer that wants a good deal for his buck and has researched his prospective buy
People that will not know the value of there purchase and get ripped off by the greedy seller simple

IN THE END YOUR ITEM SELLS FOR WHAT ITS WORTH THAT IS WHAT EVER THE DEAL IS AT THE TIME.

There are strong negotiators and weak negotiators, I am not a bargain hunter but I certainly find them all the time, from weaker sellers.

Cheers Mark