View Poll Results: Spotty or Schoolie

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Thread: Spotty or Schoolie?

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    Spotty or Schoolie?

    Got a mack off Noosa today in my kayak and initially called it for a schoolie as it had a very evident white patch on the dorsal fin even though it had the large number of smaller spots. Others have question me since saying that it is a spotty.

    Only have this one piccie to show without the white patch being visible at all. What say you?

    Fish went 78cm so had no issues in regards to mis-identification and keeping etc.

  2. #2

    Re: Spotty or Schoolie?

    spotty bud

  3. #3

    Re: Spotty or Schoolie?

    Spottie
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    Re: Spotty or Schoolie?

    I'm no expert (only ever landed one that was clearly a schoolie), and can't see the white spot in the pic, but from the DPI website:
    "Although similar to the spotted mackerel, school mackerel are distinguished by having fewer, less distinct spots over the body, and a dorsal fin with a distinct white patch."

    From that 'definition', assuming the DPI is accurate, I would think that the white spot would make it a School Mac?

  5. #5

    Re: Spotty or Schoolie?

    I know its a spottie anyway,

    But also, how long has it been dead, schoolies dont usually keep their spots long after death (and being bled)

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    Re: Spotty or Schoolie?

    from your pic i would call it a doggy..as the spots look a bit larger than on a spotty. But usually the white patch on the first Dorsal is a dead giveaway. other are the colour of the pec and pelvic fins and the ray count on the dorsals. Sometimes very hard as they all fade to grey after death. Spotties "spots are usually larger than the pupil but smaller than the eye", doggies are usually equal or larger than the eye. In my experience Spotties also have a more vivid greenie/blue colour on the back when they first come out of the water, and the spots are more defined, and much more plentiful but more concentratedabove the lateral line. But thats just my observation....others may have observed variations. (Also dont discount Hybrids....they arent exactly unknown).

    Greg

  7. #7

    Re: Spotty or Schoolie?

    Looks like a spot to me.

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    Re: Spotty or Schoolie?

    just-chips, thats a spotty for sure, ive been trying to get out there a bit recently in the yak aswell, great fun fishing, only have managed a few bonito so far though

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    Re: Spotty or Schoolie?

    Spottie 100%.

    Pete

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    Re: Spotty or Schoolie?

    http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/28_14909.htm doggie

    important.......first dorsal fin - 16-18 spines (usually 17)


    http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/28_14912.htm spottie

    important........first dorsal fin has 20-22 spines






    IMO, School Mackerel or Doggie Mackerel.




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  11. #11

    Re: Spotty or Schoolie?

    It's a spot, doggies have bigger/less spots.

  12. #12

    Re: Spotty or Schoolie?

    Its very hard from the pic but I lean towards doggie due to the larger blurred spots near the head and the white patch. The rear end is all Spotty so the hybrid is a distict probability
    Have yougot the frame to do a fin count?
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    Re: Spotty or Schoolie?

    I'd say good with a dusting of flour and into the pan with butter and olive oil and some chips on the side.MMMMMMMM.Jim
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    Re: Spotty or Schoolie?

    Theres a simple solution to all this, say that the fish was 55cm, the DPI will tell you if it was a spottie pretty quick.

  15. #15

    Re: Spotty or Schoolie?

    Frame is goooone. Flesh is goooooooone (YUM). Wish I had t.aken more notice at the time, wish I had taken better pics

    Will be leaning toward the side of caution in the future and treating all as spotties (60cm min) unless it is blatantly obvious that it is a doggie.

    Kev

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