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    More issues at bass hatchery - Noosa River

    More bass at the Sunland Freshwater Fish Hatchery at Boreen Point have died recently and two sick horses were removed from the property on veterinary advice according to fisheries expert Dr Matt Landos.

    More info here:

    http://www.noosanews.com.au/story/20...iness-taskfor/


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    Re: More issues at bass hatchery - Noosa River

    It should be noted that fish held at another property have all been given a clean bill of health by the vets and as such are still being supplied for stocking.

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    I am flabbergasted at the general ho-hum attitude on the use of endosulphan and carbendazim. Why are they still allowed to be used in Australia when they are banned in USA and Europe.
    Havent we learnt our lessons with DDT,Dieldren, asbestos etc.
    It would appear to me that Monsanto seems to have unreasonable influence with our regulatory authorities.
    What chance does one small fish hatchery have trying to battle against the macadamia and stone fruit lobby combines with Monsanto.
    Have a look at some of the research on carbenazim and think before you eat any australian macadamias or stone fruit.
    If it can cause lymphoma in female decendants and sterility in male rats it will do the same for you.
    It is easy to say that there are safeguards in place to prevent contamination. but all it takes is one mistake or an uncaring farmer. An example is a farmer has a crop that has just been sprayed with a product that has a withholding period of 7 days and after 2 days there is a rain front forecast. He has the choice of waiting and suffering water damage and a devalued crop or picking immediatley and sending to market. No need to say what he will do.
    Also with the hatchery did the adjacent farmer strictly observe the recommendations imposed on him re the spraying barrier, and the correct recommended use of the chemicals. So many farmers when mixing sprays resort to the old adage " plus a few extra glugs" to ensure that it will work.
    What compensation is the hatchery owner getting for the lost stock she has endured this and last year?
    Cheers
    Ray

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    i think peole should be looking at the helicopter that does the spaying for mozzies.people seem to let this go by..what is he using .......
    you say about withholding periods. thier crops are tested before and after harvest if they contain an unacceptable limit of chemical's they cannot sell thier product..
    .dont get me wrong i think all chemicals should be banned.but i bet people dont relise that the good old fly spray they have been using for years contain these very chemicals as well.so think twice before spraying flies.there are also a lot more dangerous sh*t being used that people dont no about.
    so i really believe this fish farm should pull stump's and get away from there and any these chemicals all of which are chlorinated hydrocarbon's should be banned.people dont no what thier eating but go to the farmer who uses these a few years down the track and check out his health i can bet he have cancer of the gut or or has had one or both of his n#ts cut out ...this is deadly gear so all bases should be covered before pointing the finger at one person.i would be checking out that chopper first where does it have control methods for spray drift ..come to think of it i dont think i have seen him flying around since the sh#t has started about this all.
    cheer's sorry to bore you all.

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    Re: More issues at bass hatchery - Noosa River

    Costs money to move and the fish farm has been there so long that the road in is named after it.

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    ou say about withholding periods. thier crops are tested before and after harvest if they contain an unacceptable limit of chemical's they cannot sell thier product..

    The only crops that are tested are the ones for export and usually at country of destination.
    occasional random sampleing for aust ralian consumpion.
    Cheers
    Ray

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    Re: More issues at bass hatchery - Noosa River

    Ray

    You are off the mark. We sell to both domestic and export markets and irrespective of where it goes, we have to get a MRL test done to prove it doesn't contain residue chemicals as a part of our quality accreditation which most horticultural farms have. The fines are huge, so it doesn't make sense to risk it. Also a conviction effectively screws you in the market with no one wanting to take the risk of buying from you.

    We have banned the use of endo on our place and I would expect it to e baned here in Australia fairly soon. Interestingly, the macca farm near the hatchery doesn't use endo. The tests done after the first two incidents at this property indicated that chemicals where not the likely cause. There has also been a fair amount of other issues that have not been reported yet to the media that has nothing to do with the surrounding farms. My biggest issue was that the surrounding farms were blamed by the owner of the hatchery without proof and these people where then persecuted by the media.

    Steve

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    i used to manage a 20,000 tree olive grove but i dont no anything.
    but i do still say check the chopper that sparys the mozzies.
    the farmer risk's loosing a lot by taking stupid shortcut's like that .
    they have to log every drop of chemical that is used on thier farm's
    even round up and this macca farmer has every log detail.it has been proven by the dpi.. god help this lady if she is wrong about him.

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    As far as the chemicals used in agriculture if you have a look at what we pay for meat and vegies, you will find that we pay much the same as we did 10 years ago. But the costs of producing have gone through the roof yet if we went to the supermarket and were facing tomatoes at $10kg or carrots at $8kg or rump steak at $50kg then we would all be howling for blood.If the fruit has a slight blemish it get left on the shelf The only way farmers can stay in front these days is by producing more for less and blemish free, thats where the chemicals come in. Have a good look at the prices we pay next time your in the supermarket and think back a few years, you might be shocked.
    Mark

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    Re: More issues at bass hatchery - Noosa River

    Further to Mark's post above, we have just been quoted by our agent (and every other one) that the market is buying grey pumpkins at $0.20/kg. This the price that coles and woolies are currently buying them for. Now compare this to what is getting charged in their supermarkets.

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    Re: More issues at bass hatchery - Noosa River

    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo View Post
    Ray

    You are off the mark. We sell to both domestic and export markets and irrespective of where it goes, we have to get a MRL test done to prove it doesn't contain residue chemicals as a part of our quality accreditation which most horticultural farms have. The fines are huge, so it doesn't make sense to risk it. Also a conviction effectively screws you in the market with no one wanting to take the risk of buying from you.

    We have banned the use of endo on our place and I would expect it to e baned here in Australia fairly soon. Interestingly, the macca farm near the hatchery doesn't use endo. The tests done after the first two incidents at this property indicated that chemicals where not the likely cause. There has also been a fair amount of other issues that have not been reported yet to the media that has nothing to do with the surrounding farms. My biggest issue was that the surrounding farms were blamed by the owner of the hatchery without proof and these people where then persecuted by the media.


    Steve
    Apollo I have a few relatives that have been involved in fruit growing for generations.
    They DO NOT have to have their product checked for residue chemicals before sending to market. I have just been speaking to one uncle ( Grapes and strawberrys) and all he does is keep a log of what he sprays with and the withholding period. He has records going back 20 odd years and has never been asked to produce the log. He is reasonably ethical in what he uses and only uses QLD approved products but that is not to say that everyone does this.
    The use and concentrations of various products vary from state to state and also from product to product.

    Cheers
    Ray

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