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    Re: Best Tyres for the Beach

    Have your vehicle on the bitumen and let your tyres down to 18psi and note the sidewall bulge then let them down to 15psi and note the sidewall bulge.If there is bugger all difference it won't make much difference on the beach except to break the tyre off the bead easier.Do this at home to one tyre and see the difference.Had 3 hilux's a 60 series and now a Prado all manner of tyres 18psi when on the beach never had any problems,you need momentum when getting up the soft tracks and choose your gear wisely.For instance stop vehicle on the hard sand before the track you wish to get up put it in low range in 2nd gear take off and then 3rd gear and give it some stick but don't go beserk.When you feel that the vehicle is going to make it back off some and steady as she goes.You will get feel for what your vehicle can do after a while and what tyre pressure your comfortable with.Gear selection is very important when climbing sand and power doesn't go astray either.Just be careful when deflating to lower pressures as breaking a tyre off the rim needs special tools to put back on.Jim
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  2. #32

    Re: Best Tyres for the Beach

    Yep everyone has covered the topic well. I can add my own experience as well. i own both a Forester and D22 Navara.

    The Forester has 17" 55 series Yokohama Gelolander H/T tyres
    The Navara has 16" Cooper ATR

    The Foresters tyres are superb for the sand, at 18psi they don't dig in much at all, and coupled with momentum and the torque of the turbo you can tackle all beach entry/exits and most inland tracks even with the bum dragging in the sand. 1400kg kerb weight helps too.

    The Navara is a dog in the soft sand, because teh diesel is asmatic but the ATRs are excellent as well with the close tread. You pretty much doodle through in the navara as the 265/70 side wall flexes heaps. The helps offset the 2000kg kerb weight.

  3. #33

    Re: Best Tyres for the Beach

    If you go for a look over at 4WDACTION, click thu the DIY link and there is a tyre review there that might be informative.

    Lots of people aregue the mud tyre thing....I realy dont think the tread pattern matter a bit... but lots of the chunkier tyres have stiffer sidewalls and don't belly out well, where lots of the all terain's are lighter and softer in construction.

    some argue that a wider tyre has to push more sand that a taller tyre?

    cheers
    Its the details, those little details, that make the difference.

  4. #34

    Re: Best Tyres for the Beach

    Ah, you all have it wrong.
    The best tyres for the beach are the tyres on the Landrover. Don't know what brand they are but they're old and worn out and it never gets bogged.
    As for PSI...who knows?? Haven't checked them in about 5 years but the rims don't make sparks on the road yet so all must be good.
    I intend on living for-ever....so far so good


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    Re: Best Tyres for the Beach

    Its because they are relatively narrow and very high profile Finga (and because its a landy - correct gearing and torque and power in all the right places for offroading, no IFS hardware hanging down to plough the sand and diffs tucked up high on live axles - again no sand ploughing which makes a big difference in sand).

    Cheers
    Boat: Seafarer Vagabond
    Live: Great South East....love Moreton Bay fishing

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    Re: Best Tyres for the Beach

    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    Its because they are relatively narrow and very high profile Finga (and because its a landy - correct gearing and torque and power in all the right places for offroading, no IFS hardware hanging down to plough the sand and diffs tucked up high on live axles - again no sand ploughing which makes a big difference in sand).

    Cheers
    Na, we have sunraisers and some widish tyres on her. I don't know what brand but they're rejects off my little brothers car.
    I reckon the reason she doesn't get bogged is.....
    (a) she's a Landy.
    or
    (b) That ba$tard Murphy. We have a dirty big PTO winch on the front with a Kazillion metres of wire rope (well nearly a Kazillion) and the sand anchor in the back. Never had to use them (except for pulling trees down) and as long as they stay on/in the Landy we may never need them.
    Well that's my theory anyways.
    I intend on living for-ever....so far so good


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    Re: Best Tyres for the Beach

    Quote Originally Posted by finga View Post
    Na, we have sunraisers and some widish tyres on her. I don't know what brand but they're rejects off my little brothers car.
    I reckon the reason she doesn't get bogged is.....
    (a) she's a Landy.
    #

    Hmmmm, I went up the beach in a Landy once

    the experience could be best described as sitting on an old wooden stump in a 5mx1.5m garden shed during a 9.5 earthquake


    sure it didn't get bogged, BUT............................
    If You Can't Run With The Dogs....... Stay On The Porch

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    Re: Best Tyres for the Beach

    Went for a run along Bribie Island beach yesterday, and the Yokohama Geolanders are still awesome for sand at 18psi, even in 55-series low profile form.

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    Re: Best Tyres for the Beach

    The coils on Discos from the early 90's are the softest ride around....the short wheelbase does contribute to pitching, but overall they are a very sweet ride in sand.

    Yoot - the vehicle's relative low weight and heaps of torque from that hair dryer are your answer I reckon to why even the low profiles work. Stick low profiles on a 100 series for example and you are asking for problems in deep sand.

    Cheers
    Boat: Seafarer Vagabond
    Live: Great South East....love Moreton Bay fishing

  10. #40

    Re: Best Tyres for the Beach

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevaclone View Post
    Hmmmm, I went up the beach in a Landy once

    the experience could be best described as sitting on an old wooden stump in a 5mx1.5m garden shed during a 9.5 earthquake


    sure it didn't get bogged, BUT............................
    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    The coils on Discos from the early 90's are the softest ride around....the short wheelbase does contribute to pitching, but overall they are a very sweet ride in sand.

    Cheers
    The first is a better description of the ride in The Landy. But she doesn't go down
    I intend on living for-ever....so far so good


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    Re: Best Tyres for the Beach

    Finga - you must have a leaf spring rear end matey or a coil spring deefer that is meant for load, cause the Disco rear springing is not that heavy. The series 1 in particular were soft, although my series 2 is stiffer.

    Cheers
    Boat: Seafarer Vagabond
    Live: Great South East....love Moreton Bay fishing

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    Re: Best Tyres for the Beach

    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post

    Yoot - the vehicle's relative low weight and heaps of torque from that hair dryer are your answer I reckon to why even the low profiles work. Stick low profiles on a 100 series for example and you are asking for problems in deep sand.

    Cheers
    yes good point, running lows on a 100 series would have to have at least 500Hp to match the Foresters power/weight. Even then, weight is weight.

  13. #43

    Re: Best Tyres for the Beach

    Just hit the soft spots a bit harder .

    Remember the Glenn Robbins character Russell Coight??? His best ever catch cry when touring through the bush in his fourby was "the only way to see Australia is FLAT OUT!"

    Unless you're really keen to go out hand over 1k for a good set of tyres right now, I would persevere with what you have got by using speed and momentum when required and change tyres when these ones are dead.

    Kev

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    Re: Best Tyres for the Beach

    The current 4WD monthly has an article on using mud tyres for sand. The main thing they pointed out was that you have to go as low as 12-14psi to get the mud tyres to bag out. They had a photo of the tyres at 18psi and it looks fully inflated! Apparently mud tyres hace much stiffer side walls. I think this has been mentioned before.

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    Re: Best Tyres for the Beach

    Hi
    Tyre pressure is the key, thats for sure. When I used to fish Stockton Beach just about every weekend there were times when that was almost not the case. Long weekends when everyone just had to go camping with their caravans and camper trailers on the beach it was almost as much fun sitting back and watching everyone try to get up the hill before you got onto the beach. The best thing I found for driving on soft sand was a locked front diff. Air locker if you have the $$.
    I had a old 60 series and I just welded the front diff up. Great on sand and not so bad on harder stuff as long as you were going in a straight line.

    Mark

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