Well for what its worth my opinion is that the rec fishing license will be introduced sooner rather than later. The monies raised will be used as the government see's fit, regardless of the opinion of Sunfish et al.
We all know that this government wastes money like its going out of fashion and so needs more ways to top up its coffers.
i want a bigger boat
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Absolutley right. Pretty clear from the outset what his motivations wereOriginally Posted by FNQCairns
Hmm, got a fair bit of time for Scott, not a lot of time for Sunfish, my personal take is Sunfish represents the recreational fishing related industry more than it does recreational fishers. Be interesting to see if he has some influence on Sunfish.
PS I would support a general fishing licence similar to the SIP, if 75% went back in to fish stocking as it does for the SIP it would be great.
Scott will fit right into sunfish as they don't listen either and just say we don't know what is good for us and what they want is the best thing for us.
Stuie
IF IT CAN'T EAT A WHOLE PILLY I DON'T WANT IT
What annoyed me about all this is Sunfish post the article in their rag, and at the same time state there internal division on the matter. Seems pretty dumb to me. If they dont have a policy on the mater then they should shut up, or put up.
The general conscenus of Sunfish from what I can gather (I will have a good chat with Barry Pollock tomorrow) is that they are not pushing a licence, rather floating the idea.
Furthermore, there was mention made in a presentation by Terry Healy (DPIF) that the rec licence had been floated. He did not go into detail on the matter though. I was going to try and have a chat to him about it but unfortunatley I missed him.
Barry better watch out, the way Scott operates
Tangles KFC
I do not ever get involved in politics but there is a point to be made for a licence.
At the moment we have no pollitical clout as we have no money to fight fior our rights, If you think a licence does not work have a look at impoundment fishing it is a wonderful success throughout Queensland. If all were paying a fee and even if it is 60 bucks a; year that is two ;cheap slabs of beer and if that money is put into a trust fund say for buying out pro licences ttc what a difference it would make and also if say 200 thousand people were paying this that would be 12 million dollars raised a year in qld to help our offshore fishery. And when yo have money yo have political clout and this needs to be managed jointly by goverment and recreational fishing bodies. I know not all will agree with this but it the way we are goping we are going top have nothing to go fishing for if we dont do something drastic
it doesnt work like that, that money wont go to where it should, there are the Scott's of the world to pay for, the talkfests, the conference costs, the gravy train....it just leaks money. Whats a slab? well thats a slab too many as it crosses the line on principle.
we already pay for facilities... we have Govt departments charged with civil responsibility to manage resources and facilities on our books, the Taxpayer...and the big issue people forget about is a basic principle our grandfathers went to war for.. a certain freedom of rights which these guys dont respect, we should pay..... and we have people like Scott of Sunfish telling us we should pay for these rights with a RFL.
This is about self serving wantabee's getting in on the grab, , as the gov't has abrogated their responsibility in this area. Money grabbers have of course filled the vacum, self generating positions.
They will tell you its the only option, its for you, for all,,, its religious preaching, . its a gravy train and who cares about the rec fishos, they are used. Its a money making exercise.
Do you really think Sunfish really cares about rec fisho's ? they are a quasi Govt funded agency just like the Conservation Council, they care about their existence, they exist to exist, subservient to the govt of the day.
Sunfish want to control a RFL, Sunfish want in on it? why it further justifies its existence and gives them relevance, even if it shafts the very people the proclaim to represent, ie supposedly us.
I look at Scott Mitchell of Sunfish just as i look at Simon Baltais, same cloth, but different thread.
Tangles KFC
I cant believe that people still trust there money to a unknown, hence the old saying about a fool and their money.... Well if you are so keen to give it away, give it to me, i promise i will put it to good use...
If you open that door, you might not like what comes out, and there is no closing it.
Rant over.
Floated by whom ? surley not Scott ?
No hidden agenda my ar$e !!!!!
Damo
The problem with a general recreational fishing licence is that a lot of the money collected is wasted in admin costs. It impinges on and penalises the basic right to wet a line or set a crab pot on a public beach, river or creek bank.
Maybe I am missing something or maybe I just getting too old and cranky
Hi all
I think we are all banging our heads against a brick wall right now.
It seems every time you take a breath these days someone wants you to pay.
Well i may be getting old and cranky to But I am sick of people making me continually pay more for every thing I enjoy doing. I work 60 hours a week and add to that 20 hours travelling to and from work and The only thing i can honestly say I want to do is go fishing when i have some time to do so.
We see our registration continually go up-- what does that fund,, We see the price of fuel go up--we all know what that funds and now you want me to pay for the right to sit on the bank or in my boat and fish. Sorry everyone but I pay enough to do the one thing I enjoy most in life and its for bloody sure i won't be funding a weekend for a whole lot of Sunfish members to talk about whats right for me.
What gaurantees are there about what the money will be used for and what percentage will go straight to improvements for rec fishos. How much will be left after management and admin fees-- How many lies will we be told this time just so someone can get their way and make us pay for something that will be of no or little benefit to us.
THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY OF DOING THINGS THAT WILL BENEFIT EVERYONE,
AND Why is it that everyone thinks money is the answer to solving every problem that comes along. ???
We just slug him/her another fifty and everything will be fixed.
Ronnie
So who represents me/my family and 99+++% of everyone I have EVER gone fishing with over 40 of my 43 years...talk about upside down.
cheers fnq
Gee, what a shocker!! I can't believe Scotty had an agenda..... He was at it from the start of his big thread and it was obvious. Now the dust has settled and Scotty has emerged as the wolf in sheeps clothing that is out to satisfy the wants of himself only. I used to support Sunfish, but they went the wrong way a couple of yrs ago so I pulled the pin. This just confirms my suspicions.
A shit is a shit, doesnt matter how much sugar you put on it, it still smells. And Scotty's reeking. Interesting that he hasnt replied to this thread........
One good point scott did bring up today was the SIPS fee. I cant remember the exact dollar figures, but I think it raises $680,000 a year. Of that 25% is consumed by the state government as administration expenses. Good value for money?
Todays Sunfish forum was funded in part by PPV. Sure the food was good, and I am sure that everyone involved enjoyed the dinner and the free drinks but I could have hired the hall at VMR Brisbane for $130 and had the same speakers. It would not have been as fancy, but that money saved could have been used to help supply catch cards or tags or whatever. There is a good take away up the road from VMR Brisbane, and I could certainly get a good feed for a lot less that the $50 I paid. If it did not cost $50 to attend today I am sure there would have been a lot more that the 50odd people who attended.
Point is, where is your money going to go??? How much will be directly injected into the rec fishing community for the DIRECT benefit of the rec fishing community?
Give him time, the Sunfish conference is on all this weekend and thread was only started last night,
Though if I were him I wouldn't be replying to anonymous posters who can't debate the issue and need to play the man instead.
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