PHP Warning: Use of undefined constant VBA_SCRIPT - assumed 'VBA_SCRIPT' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in ..../includes/functions_navigation.php(802) : eval()'d code on line 1
Tiller steer 40hp - hydrofoil or not....... - Page 3

View Poll Results: Have you fitted a foil to a tiller steer and has the boat been better as a result?

Voters
58. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes, the boat was much better as a result.

    47 81.03%
  • No, my boat performed fine without the need for a foil.

    11 18.97%
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 31 to 39 of 39

Thread: Tiller steer 40hp - hydrofoil or not.......

  1. #31
    Ausfish Platinum Member craigie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001

    Re: Tiller steer 40hp - hydrofoil or not.......

    Mate,

    I fitted a foil to my previous rig (40 hp Mariner tiller steer on a 4.6 Clark open tinnie).
    Prior to the foil (Stingray model), my boat would reach nearly 60 k's at WOT, but had "porpising" issues. After the the introduction of the foil, the boat would plane at lower revs and the nose of the boat would stay level. Only drawback I lost over 15% off my top end speed and could now only get high 40 k's at WOT.

    Regards
    Craigie.

  2. #32
    Ausfish Bronze Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2008

    Re: Tiller steer 40hp - hydrofoil or not.......

    I have had my new boat (4.1 Safari/40hp Yamaha 2 stroke) for a couple of months now and am still running it in and sorting out the setup.
    I am having issues with porpoising which is a real pain in the bum. It seems to happen at mid speed range, which unfortunately is the speed that I want to run at most of the time.
    I have lifted the motor one hole from what the dealer installed it at and the cav plate is now level with the bottom of the hull and have also mounted my fuel tank at the front.
    If I have the kids on board (weight at the front) it is not really an issue but one up it is a real pain.
    I think it is caused by the weight of the motor and me at the rear and am seriously thinking of trying an SE Sports 200.
    I just dont think I have any other option rather than carting sand bags or similar at the front of the boat all the time?

    The poll results show that more than 4 in 5 people have experienced improvement in the boat after fitting a foil.

  3. #33

    Re: Tiller steer 40hp - hydrofoil or not.......

    Quote Originally Posted by geoffmck View Post
    I have had my new boat (4.1 Safari/40hp Yamaha 2 stroke) for a couple of months now and am still running it in and sorting out the setup.
    I am having issues with porpoising which is a real pain in the bum. It seems to happen at mid speed range, which unfortunately is the speed that I want to run at most of the time.
    I have lifted the motor one hole from what the dealer installed it at and the cav plate is now level with the bottom of the hull and have also mounted my fuel tank at the front.
    If I have the kids on board (weight at the front) it is not really an issue but one up it is a real pain.
    I think it is caused by the weight of the motor and me at the rear and am seriously thinking of trying an SE Sports 200.
    I just dont think I have any other option rather than carting sand bags or similar at the front of the boat all the time?

    The poll results show that more than 4 in 5 people have experienced improvement in the boat after fitting a foil.
    motor still too low?

    cheers Murf

  4. #34

    Re: Tiller steer 40hp - hydrofoil or not.......

    Apologies if I'm off-track here, never had a foil so can't comment on their effectivenes one way or another, however, are you 'driving' from the rear thwart/seat?
    I constructed (although you can buy 'proper' ones) a tiller extension and now drive from just forward of centre. My 4.2m dory sits great in the water under way, whether at slow, medium or fast speed.
    Only a tight fitting piece of PVC pipe, but works well for me by allowing me to put my 80kgs forward of centre. I've been using this set-up for 4 years without incident, including bar crossings in favourable (only) conditions.
    Extremely cheap option!
    Cheers.

  5. #35
    Ausfish Bronze Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2008

    Re: Tiller steer 40hp - hydrofoil or not.......

    Quote Originally Posted by nigelr View Post
    Apologies if I'm off-track here, never had a foil so can't comment on their effectivenes one way or another, however, are you 'driving' from the rear thwart/seat?
    I constructed (although you can buy 'proper' ones) a tiller extension and now drive from just forward of centre. My 4.2m dory sits great in the water under way, whether at slow, medium or fast speed.
    Only a tight fitting piece of PVC pipe, but works well for me by allowing me to put my 80kgs forward of centre. I've been using this set-up for 4 years without incident, including bar crossings in favourable (only) conditions.
    Extremely cheap option!
    Cheers.
    Hi mate, I am driving from the pedestal seat put there for the purpose. I did use an extension like yours in an old boat I had with thwarts in it but am not going to do it in my new boat. I bought a nice motor with power tilt and trim on the tiller handle and want to use that. I'll try lifting the motor another notch and see how that goes.

  6. #36
    Ausfish Bronze Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2008

    Re: Tiller steer 40hp - hydrofoil or not.......

    I have lifted the motor one more hole and the cav plate is now just above the bottom of the hull but still seems to be just under water at planing speed.
    There has been a huge reduction in porpoising from what I started with but there is still a little bit at times, particularly one up.
    I really want to try a se sports 200 just to see if it totally eliminates my issues but dont want to drill the cav plate so am in the market for one with a drill free sports clip. BCF do not have the drill free clips in stock and they are on backorder until 18 April.
    Does anyone have one they want to sell?

  7. #37
    Ausfish Addict Chimo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Gold Coast

    Re: Tiller steer 40hp - hydrofoil or not.......

    Geoff

    Just drill the holes; your going to leave the foil on anyway.

    If you buy a clip on one, one wonders how long before it walks or falls off?

    You could always pod your boat if you really want a difference.

    Cheers
    Chimo
    What could go wrong.......................

  8. #38

    Re: Tiller steer 40hp - hydrofoil or not.......

    geoffmck if you are going to fit a se sport foil go to their website and send them a query on which is the best size ,either 2000 or 3000.I have a 4.2 viper that I have fitted a 40 hp four stroke Merc to and gave them all the details such as model etc and they sent a reply saying the 2000 wont fit and go the 3000.Just check with them because the 40 hp is the transition point from a 2000 to a 3000

  9. #39

    Re: Tiller steer 40hp - hydrofoil or not.......

    Quote Originally Posted by geoffmck View Post
    I have lifted the motor one more hole and the cav plate is now just above the bottom of the hull but still seems to be just under water at planing speed.
    There has been a huge reduction in porpoising from what I started with but there is still a little bit at times, particularly one up.
    I really want to try a se sports 200 just to see if it totally eliminates my issues but dont want to drill the cav plate so am in the market for one with a drill free sports clip. BCF do not have the drill free clips in stock and they are on backorder until 18 April.
    Does anyone have one they want to sell?
    Less is more when it comes to foil sizes if the above this is where you are ATM, IMO don't get an SE sport go for a permatrim, far superior.

    cheers fnq



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •