My ETEC is a 40hp, 07 model - had injector problem at the end of the first summer/fishing season (135hrs). Dealer fixed asap (they even drove the 150klm to collect it & then returned it to me!)
No hassles since, but will be watching the cowl splitting problem closely.
Yes I would buy an ETEC again.
All differant pots,,, pot #1 & 2 went at 19 hrs and #3 went at 215 hrs.. Broken voice coil by the looks on all...Originally Posted by chop duster
I ripped it up them at the e-tec owners forum... Whether or not I buy another E-tec wll be depended on what sort off rig I buy next, and if I have any more trouble with injectors.... I'm in the process of writing a E-mail to BRP Aust & USA for a please explain..
Update:
I might have a few apologies to make back at the E-tec owners forum, as a couple off their members made comments that my injector failure sound like it could be cause by bad fuel....
I strongly disagreed, as I thought I was buying quality fuel, and I change my 2 filters regularly. I usually change them 2-3 times a year.. This last filter has been on since March.... Anyway,,, I just got back in after changing filter on my boat, and I found the main filter had lots off rust inside and the fuel inside was badly contaminated...... Not good
from what i have read etec went through another mob in 07 for there injectors dont know why maybe because they were cheaper but that failed on them totally which is why there has been alot of inkector failures in the 07 and some 08 models. they have know changed them and havent been as many since well i havent read any from 09 10 models so there might not be many at all. we have purchases a 150 etec not long ago and since it is early 35 hours we a happy enough with it. would we buy another one well after warrenty is up were gonna get a 150 4 stroke just to see the difference. but overall we would buy another one maybe the 175 on the barcrusher next time..
560c Bar Crusher "Overtime"
good grief an intelligent ETEC thread....thats bad luck to do three injectors Jabba.... from reading where you do sounds like there was a dodgy period and were fixed with changed design 08/09..?
I was all set to buy and ETEC when I ended up getting a secondhand boat with yammy 4strk. ..but based on my research I wouldnt hesitate to buy one... no problem. Hope yours is good now Jabba.
I know him, and if it was seized, he knew. But one seized engine does not kill the range.
Didn't like the 4 ETECs I saw at a local boat builder's (no names no pack drill), none with power head attached. They were all early models though. I saw them, and they had all had the power heads sent back.
Tim
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yes it is unbelievable......instead of the usual dribble that gets no-one anywhere
Last xmas, i noticed a bit of gearbox oil at the bottom of the leg.
I took it to the dealer & he replaced the seal in the gearbox !
No biggy, he said in the 08 models they had a batch of dodgy
seals is all... After owning this one, i would buy another 4sure !!
HH Prowler, 115 etec 08
Mark
Worries me when I hear that some motors are affected by a bad batch of a part and regardless of which manufacturer it is they don't follow it up and swap them all out. Isn't their reputation worth the trouble? Don't they realise we use these things well offshore and our lives may depend on a gearbox working and a motor being able to get above 2000rpm?.
Wodering if all the dealers and manufacturers aren't using the "bad batch"as a explaination that punters will accept as it isn't all the manufacturers fault if you get what I mean. My point is that correct specification, testing, quality control and putting it together is their responsibility - full stop. More importantly it is their reputation on the line to contact owners and replace any suspect bits before they fail not say "possible bad batch"when they fail.
Does anyone else agree that on the newer motors components like computers or injectors should still be under warranty outside the 2-3 years as they should have alonger design life and with pre-filters , filters, power filters and fuses on computers etc there isn't mi=uch user input t possibly led to their failure?? Injectors should be good for 2000 hours or 5 years for example and computers 10 years or 5000 hours? The prices of these items out of warranty if you had a couple go wrong get close to the 2nd hand value of teh motor very quickly.
Jabba- with all motors I do more regular than required filter changes and the dam motors manufacturers know fuel is a issue that is why they have filters. Honestly I can't see how it could affect the voice coils in the injectors especially if they can't find debri in the injector head.
As for water in the gearbox there used to be a optional "water sensor" avaliable - as far as I am concerned as box cost is $7000 plus for a 150hp it should be fitted at the factory on all motors. If I had a choice to be stranded or get a warning buzzer and either top up box oil or run home slow I know what option I would take.
"Bear 001 My ETEC is a 40hp, 07 model - had injector problem at the end of the first summer/fishing season (135hrs). Dealer fixed asap (they even drove the 150klm to collect it & then returned it to me!)"
Mate your dealer deserves an award for good service for that - nice to see good service still exists. Surprised they didn't just turn up with the injector as they are a bolt on , run computer and all done bar a test tank run.
i have a mate with a 250 and he has a few problems with various alarms going off. Some of them were due to the loom wearing through on the block, but that was rectified. He also trouble with the low oil alarm going off all the time. now he seems to have an over heat alarm go off every trip. The dealer tells him the software needs upgrading
not much fun when an engine goes into limp home mode when your 60km offshorre in the Southern Ocean
i have another mate that had a small block 200 and he had no trouble what so ever. However he did sell his boat and mainly i think due to the stress of the Etec - when was it going to fail he thought as he had a few mates with issue's.
i have not heard of engines siezing or throwing legs out of bed mainly just alarms going off all the time.
there also has been a couple of powerheads replaced down this way on 150 and 115.
i have a mate with a 250 and he has a few problems with various alarms going off. Some of them were due to the loom wearing through on the block, but that was rectified. He also trouble with the low oil alarm going off all the time. now he seems to have an over heat alarm go off every trip. The dealer tells him the software needs upgrading
not much fun when an engine goes into limp home mode when your 60km offshorre in the Southern Ocean
i have another mate that had a small block 200 and he had no trouble what so ever. However he did sell his boat and mainly i think due to the stress of the Etec - when was it going to fail he thought as he had a few mates with issue's.
i have not heard of engines siezing or throwing legs out of bed mainly just alarms going off all the time.
there also has been a couple of powerheads replaced down this way on 150 and 115.
Julian
I'd get your mate to have another dealer have a look. If the sensor is in spec (easy test) and reading right temp ( infared thermometer and temp crayons) then software ain't going to work in fixing it.. It is either reaching or exceeding temps - ie , blockages, waterpump, screens blocked, thermostats whatever. larger motors have a water pressure sensor to narrow that diagnosis down and if not dealer should have test wheel and tank for motors to make it happen in the shop.. I really wonder if some mechanics have skills these days. With a worn wiring loom no repair bar a complete one is suitable in my mind. Hope he gets some good advice and it sorted
they just seem to be so finely tuned that any minor change the alarms and limp home mode kicks in. With the trouble he has had BRP did extend his warranty, but he only has the BRP tech's word its not in writing
Dodgy batch of components=they wouldnt have a f%^&*n clue..
this is why we change the engines over after warrenty.. new engine no breakdowns well hopefully and if it does least we aint paying for it warrenty will be.. might cost us more but better piece of mind.
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I was over at Peel this morning sitting on a chair in Horseshoe when a dark red Stabi with an Etec on the back pulled up onto the sand about 100meters away.
Lady thru the anchor while the bloke dipped up a bucket of water.
He then poured the water over the engine.
Did this 3 times.
He then gingerly reached out and touched the engine casing. Quickly withdrew the hand. It seemed to be rather warm.
Did the bucket trick a few more times before before deciding to go for a swim.
I left not long after that. Didnt see what happened next.
Overheating maybe?
Rod
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