What Do You Want In A New Thread On Barra?

[BR65]

Plenty going on at the moment, so Im curious as to what the viewers and occasional visitors on this site want in a barra thread.


Is it premium info on cutting edge and forward thinking techniques, with the cost of there is no room in the thread for anything else?

Is it general info on barra fishing, with banter?

Is it just banter, with no relevant cutting edge barra techniques?

Is it open discussion on barra fishing, with all ideas and view points taken on board?

Does your choice of thread type define what sort of barra angler you are?

All good, Im just asking, please feel free to respond.

[Cammy]

Why dont you do a couple of threads for barra?

e.g

Techniques
Rigs
Location
Tackle

Etc.

Imo everyone is crazy about barra, just divide ths threads up in some specific order so people dont have to look through billions of barra threads full of the same stuff. A While back there was about 3 barra threads per week with just the same stuff.

Ofcourse it would be slightly difficult to do so, i think it will improve search results and will help new members out. When you go in to a thread you will know your gonna get alot of different opinions from everybody that will therefore help the user out by not searching in other threads.

Some threads are just pages and pages of babbling on about nothing! Seriously.

Regs,
Cam

[NAGG]

I'll tell you what I dont ever want to see here Brian

Some newbie asking a question like

"What lure to use for barra" - Sept 20th 2009 .

His first reply to his question came on October 14th 2009.



Now this was not at some new general chit chat site ....... either.

I'm not sure if it was a case of those members seeing it beneath them to answer such a basic question.
or
Members feeling too scared or intimidated to answer such a straight forward question ..... just in case they suggested something that was not in-line with the views of the senior members at that site.

Whatever the reason was ...... lets avoid treating anyone like that

Cheers

Chris

[Lovey80]

I'd like to see an in-depth discussion on the possibilities of puting grown dam Barra into salt water wild waters so they can breed. Setting up programs for this to happen and education for Barra Anglers to keep fish in prime condition for them to survive the process.

Cheers

Chris

[2manylures]

You aren't bored are you Brian?

Something I've often thought about yet don't have the time to "stay tuned" is a freshwater thread covering various species angling comparisons.

Barra anglers may pick up something from the cod, yellowbelly, silver perch anglers & visa versa. It may only be something as simple as a particular lure or lure style, leaders/leader material, all about snags, reading water in rivers as opposed to impoundments etc.

Many variations occur when chasing "native" species in different waters although there are various similarities that may seem insignificant or go un-noticed until bought to the attention.

There are probably many {all rounders} that fish all species that don't want to embarrass themselves by publically mentioning that certain lures etc catch many & various species that don't normally get mentioned amongst the hard core species specific anglers.

Just a couple of bobs worth of idle thought

[Dick Pasfield]

I'll tell you what I dont ever want to see here Brian

Some newbie asking a question like

"What lure to use for barra" - Sept 20th 2009 .

His first reply to his question came on October 14th 2009.



Now this was not at some new general chit chat site ....... either.

I'm not sure if it was a case of those members seeing it beneath them to answer such a basic question.
or
Members feeling too scared or intimidated to answer such a straight forward question ..... just in case they suggested something that was not in-line with the views of the senior members at that site.

Whatever the reason was ...... lets avoid treating anyone like that

Cheers

Chris

Fair call Nagg, you're right, to Sweetwater's defense as it's format is post rather than thread orientated and with the limited capacity of only ten spaces something can drop off the front page in less than a a day, especially with a couple of welcomes and a couple more press releases. I've seen it happen a few times where a thread has disappeared when there was more to offer. I only saw that one you refer to after you posted on the 14th. I'd suggest your assumptions as to why are well off beam though.

As to what I'd like and that is banter kept primarily to banter inspired posts where banter is the intended focus, or as an NT site has, a chatbox to ensure the amount of banter or non critical chat is reduced to a minimum. Nothing worse than sorting through pages of posts looking for the good information squeezed in between one liners that we're all guilty of putting up from time to time.

A WA forum has the following on its front page that seems to work most of the time. - Please remember that this is a discussion forum and NOT a general chat site so please read the rules of forum use and abide by them. Thank you.

[Dick Pasfield]

Doh! double post

[2manylures]

Fair call Nagg, you're right, to Sweetwater's defense as it's format is post rather than thread orientated and with the limited capacity of only ten spaces something can drop off the front page in less than a a day, especially with a couple of welcomes and a couple more press releases. I've seen it happen a few times where a thread has disappeared when there was more to offer. I only saw that one you refer to after you posted on the 14th. I'd suggest your assumptions as to why are well off beam though.

Dick,

As this is an "ideas thread with feel free to add" why didn't you just come straight out and say you'd like to see a stick up for my mates thread?

The thread you so elequently mention is still 6th from the top of the list in general discussions and has remained steady for some time.

No defense required, I see NAGG as "on beam" with his assumptions


My apologies for bantering

[PaulMark]

Maybe there could be a separate thread ie "Barra chat-Social" where the very amusing leg pulling,tongue in cheek stuff could be,some may call it inane dribble but really its allowing friendships to flourish between people miles apart.Or is that facetwitter or whatever?
Paulo

[Cammy]

Fair call Nagg, you're right, to Sweetwater's defense as it's format is post rather than thread orientated and with the limited capacity of only ten spaces something can drop off the front page in less than a a day, especially with a couple of welcomes and a couple more press releases. I've seen it happen a few times where a thread has disappeared when there was more to offer. I only saw that one you refer to after you posted on the 14th. I'd suggest your assumptions as to why are well off beam though.

As to what I'd like and that is banter kept primarily to banter inspired posts where banter is the intended focus, or as an NT site has, a chatbox to ensure the amount of banter or non critical chat is reduced to a minimum. Nothing worse than sorting through pages of posts looking for the good information squeezed in between one liners that we're all guilty of putting up from time to time.

A WA forum has the following on its front page that seems to work most of the time. - Please remember that this is a discussion forum and NOT a general chat site so please read the rules of forum use and abide by them. Thank you.

Exacly, i dont even look at any barra stuff posted by anyone anymore. All i expect is the question.......... The "answer" would be somone talking to someone else about how their trip was somewhere. Pages and pages of dribble in barra threads, no wonder certain people dont hop on here anymore, they come for info not Dribble.

Regs,
Cam

[Dick Pasfield]

My apologies for bantering

Accepted in the 'more than generous' manner it was given TML

Yes you can go go through layer by layer to find things like that but if you just give the front page a quick scan you can loose things, as indicated I've missed stuff like that before on the site. This site has an easier 'quick to read' format because it lists threads on its front freshwater page and they stay there for much longer.

[NAGG]

Maybe there could be a separate thread ie "Barra chat-Social" where the very amusing leg pulling,tongue in cheek stuff could be,some may call it inane dribble but really its allowing friendships to flourish between people miles apart.Or is that facetwitter or whatever?
Paulo

We actually have that type thread here in Freshwater chat ....... BEN-HUR ( Mondy Muster thread) ....... As most have come to know - Just light hearted Banter with a focus toward a social gathering.

Chris

PS .... The problem with any open forum - opinions will be offered & from here it can go anywhere.
Even offering a simple tip ....... the responses can vary from a thanks to more questions or even debate - I dont know how you can temper these responses.
Just take a look at the barra & bass diaries

Chris

[NAGG]

Fair call Nagg, you're right, to Sweetwater's defense as it's format is post rather than thread orientated and with the limited capacity of only ten spaces something can drop off the front page in less than a a day, especially with a couple of welcomes and a couple more press releases. I've seen it happen a few times where a thread has disappeared when there was more to offer. I only saw that one you refer to after you posted on the 14th. I'd suggest your assumptions as to why are well off beam though.

As to what I'd like and that is banter kept primarily to banter inspired posts where banter is the intended focus, or as an NT site has, a chatbox to ensure the amount of banter or non critical chat is reduced to a minimum. Nothing worse than sorting through pages of posts looking for the good information squeezed in between one liners that we're all guilty of putting up from time to time.

A WA forum has the following on its front page that seems to work most of the time. - Please remember that this is a discussion forum and NOT a general chat site so please read the rules of forum use and abide by them. Thank you.

Hi Dick

By the way - first up ...... my comment wasn't made to throw fuel onto that other non sense
When I saw that question go unanswered , I felt a little embarrassed as well - but as I typed a response, I actually thought to my self "what flack am I going to cop over this" - No one should ever feel that way! ( hence it came straight to mind when Brian put up this thread)

As for the thread being missed ....... its been on the front page of general discussion for a quite few days now......... & the poor guy is still probably none the wiser....... Other newer threads in the same area have seen 3,4,5X the response in the past week.

Anyhow ...... I hope you can see where I'm coming from

Cheers

Chris

[Dick Pasfield]

Yes point taken Nagg, I generally don't drill down that far all that often, once off the front page I tend to miss it, just a bit impatient I guess, too many mouse clicks.

I wouldn't have thought your response would have warranted any feelings of trepidation, relevant and pretty standard I'd say. Though to be fair you did get a bit of a roast a day or so earlier so some sensitivity would be understandable.

As a response to BR's question and to get this back where it should be, we know what you don't want, what about what you'd like to see?

[Barraholic]

Righto here's my two cents worth - maybe for discussion around the gas light ( ) at Awoonga tonight. There are two things I'd like to see more threads on:

1. Show and tell/discussion on observations on barra behaviour with the goal of trying to understand why they are doing what has been observed. eg. In winter noting barra with their backs out of the water in the middle of a bay right before dusk - why are they doing it? (either from a biological or psychological process) - what are the drivers for them doing this - one of many many examples that could be explored further through shared experiences with a goal to help all understand their quarry better and find ones that are willing to accept our offerings.

2. How water behaves and changes due to weather and seasonal influences - currents, quality, clarity - how barra adapt to each of these.

I raise these two points as we have lots of threads on lure modification, triggering techniques, striking and body position concepts etc. (which I think is excellent by the way and key points get added to my little infobase to build on my learning) - but lets also try and understand better how barra tick (as per JM's guidance from either his vids or informative threads) - an analogy we've tricked up the cart, we learnt how to tie it up to the horse, we've learnt how to drive the cart once its hooked up - now where's that bloody horse! are we in the right paddock, which paddock is the horse hiding in, how do we find a horse wants to be hooked up to the cart.

My thoughts anyway - see you Awoonga boys in a few hours !

Kev