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    DEET

    No wonder it works so well.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/026982_DE...epellents.html

    (NaturalNews) If you insist on using chemical laden insect repellents containing DEET, you may be getting more than you bargained for -- including damage to your central nervous system. In fact, scientists writing in the open access journal BMC Biology don't just say that more studies should be done to confirm DEET's potential neurotoxicity to humans. The researchers are calling for more investigations of the chemical to be conducted on an urgent basis. The reason? They suspect that the potential brain cell damaging effects of DEET could be particularly harmful if used in combination with other neurotoxic insecticides. And that's exactly the way DEET is normally used in products applied to both adults and kids in order to prevent mosquito bites.

    French scientists Vincent Corbel from the Institut de Recherche pour le Developement in Montpellier and Bruno Lapied from the University of Angers headed a team of researchers who studied the mode of action and toxicity of DEET, also known by the chemical name N,N-Diethyl-3-methylbenzamide. "We've found that DEET is not simply a behavior-modifying chemical but also inhibits the activity of a key central nervous system enzyme, acetycholinesterase, in both insects and mammals," Corbel said in a statement to the media.

    DEET has been in use since its discover in l953 and is now the most common ingredient found in insect repellent preparations. It is primarily hyped as a way to keep mosquitoes at bay and doctors and insect repellant manufacturers promote DEET's use through scare tactics, suggesting you are likely to get West Nile fever from mosquito bites unless you use the chemical.

    Of course, not every mosquito bite spreads any kind of infection and West Nile fever is not always serious. What's more, a host of natural strategies, from wearing long sleeves and pants in areas plagued by mosquitoes to using a variety of herbal extracts and essential oils topically, can help you avoid bug bites and stings without chemicals. Yet DEET remains promoted by the mainstream media and medical establishment as the ingredient that protects adequately against mosquito bites and disease.

    Consider this worrisome statistic: each year approximately one-third of all Americans spray and slather on insect repellents containing central nervous system toxin DEET. And this is in spite of the fact that previous studies have warned of DEET's dangers. For example, earlier research by Duke University Medical Center pharmacologist Mohamed Abou-Donia, who has spent 30 years studying the effects of pesticides, found that prolonged exposure to DEET can impair functioning in parts of the brain and could result in problems with muscle coordination, muscle weakness, walking or even memory and cognition.

    In the new study, Corbel and his colleagues discovered that DEET inhibits the acetylcholinesterase enzyme. This is the exact effect organophosphate and carbamate insecticides have on the body, too. Alarmingly, these insecticides are often combined in products with DEET -- and the scientists found that DEET interacts especially well with carbamate insecticides, magnifying their toxicity. "These findings question the safety of DEET, particularly in combination with other chemicals, and they highlight the importance of a multidisciplinary approach to the development of safer insect repellents for use in public health," Corbel stated.

    Another study published earlier this summer in the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, a peer-reviewed journal of the American Chemical Society, showed that a natural substance, cinnamon oil, shows promise as a great-smelling, environmentally friendly pesticide, with the ability to kill mosquito larvae. The researchers also believe that cinnamon oil could be a good mosquito repellant, though they have not yet tested it against adult mosquitoes. Historically, however, cinnamon oil has been used by natural health practitioners and traditional healers to repel mosquitoes and prevent their bites.

    For more information:
    http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7...
    http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/facts...

    Now I use Bushmans myself because I know how well it works but...

    Food for thought and make an informed decision on your health and your childrens.

    Cheers Mick

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    Re: DEET

    Quote Originally Posted by MickInTheMud View Post
    the open access journal BMC Biology
    Not trying to argue that DEET isn't bad, most evidence says that it is to some degree, but don't put too much faith in findings in 'open access journals'. Open access journals are where one might publish their findings when work isn't good enough to publish elsewhere. I review manuscripts for numerous journals, and the ones I review for BMC are some of the worst.....

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    Re: DEET

    There may be a real issue with DEET...........but the herbal health nuts have been banging on about every single chemical ever made ever since chemicals have been made.

    DEET is so commonly used because it is so effective.......If someone can tell me of a "natural" product that is as effective as DEET.....I would realy like to know about it.

    An I know just the place to try it out...........Did a walk in to a barra hole with my brother last trip north...in winter......and unless you come from the north.......you have no idea.... even if you dont get bit... the noise is bad enough.....summer there are times when you cant hear your foot fall for the buzz......

    On a more serious thaught.....mosquito borne diseases in some areas are a real problem.......most of them you only need to get one good bite from an infected mosquito.

    If you have suffered from one or the arbo- viruses, you will know, getting bitten by a mosquito can be very much more than a bit of an annoyance.

    The results from ross river, barmah forest or its many friends are long lasting and dibilitating with hang over symptoms that can last 6 months, a year or more.

    We have tests for around 20 odd of these diseases, ( I v'e been tested for them all, I slaped the form on the counter at the pathology one time & the nurse said " Oh,I havn't heard of that one" ) there are many that are not even named.

    Fortunately we don't get much malaria, black fever or the other reeely nasty ones here.

    Mosquito avoidance is an important issue..........far more important than looney piss and vinegar.

    Yes I cover up.....i wear long trousers and long sleves most of the time........I doo use deet bassed repellents........ but I apply it to my skin only when and whre I need it..... spraying my shirt, trousers and hat is many times enough..........but if they get realy active you have to spray your ears.

    Don't think you are safe in the south.....Murray vallley encephalitus.....gets well down into victoria.

    cheers
    Its the details, those little details, that make the difference.

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    Re: DEET

    A lot of "natural" oils in the concentrated form are very toxic as well. Just because something is natural doesn't mean it is not dangerous if not used correctly. Natural sprays on farms can contaminate and poision most things if applied the wrong way or in the wrong combination and concentration..

    I hate mozzies and they love me

    Out of interest there was a article on the ABC on catalyst I think about them breeding a mosquito with only a 10 day lifespan not 20 days as at 10 days the dengue fever doesn't incubate in them and it would stop them being a carrier and prevernt dengue fever . Just hope they consider all the things that eat mozzys so they if there is 20 days without rain it doesn't wipe the whole population out ( as if) even though I hate em.

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