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  1. #16

    Re: Best leader connection

    Bassfan,

    Assuming that all your knots are good and they are all breaking, have you considered that perhaps your braid is past its use by date or have you tried another brand.

    Just strikes me as odd that your braid is wearing and not your mono, (assumed reading between the lines).

    Maybe a different brand might help??

    Regards
    HOnda.

  2. #17

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    Bassfan ,

    That is a good point that Honda has made, & if you are using fluoro mono line after 12 months it breaks down considerably. I have had it as bad as 50% of the rated breaking strain, & be careful not to tie your knots on the braid to tight. As it will cut into its self, anything like the bimini twists this can be a real problem.
    Good luck I hope you can get it sorted mate.

    Dave.
    I am not an Angler I am an Athlete of the sea.............<><

  3. #18

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    50+ turn Bimini twist onto a Mid knot has been proven to be the highest % breaking strain out of all other braid knots that I can find research on.

    Bimini only takes less than 1 min tie, and the mid knot is so simple a child can do it.

    Used it exclusivly all over cape york popping for massive GT's and queenies and I have never ever had one fail.

  4. #19

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    The fg knot or the shout pr knot as you tie directly onto the leader .Smooth as through the runners. I use these knots for everything from 2-150 lb leaders.
    Graham

  5. #20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark.wu View Post
    The best knot ever is FG knot or called GT knot! 0 damage to the leader and braid!

    Excellent knot this one...I had zero knot failure with the Gt roll knot in the kimberley's on BIG barra caught tight in pandanus trees. In that situation we had to give zero drag to the fish. All leader knot held.

    However i dont think it is a particularly effective knot on light line classes. I dont use a double in the main line as you need with a GT knot. Therefore my improved albright is perfect, not 100% but with light drags is good enough. I do lose the occasional jighead on a cast but is too irregular to cause concern.
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  6. #21

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    I have been trialling some soon to be released Egrell wind on leaders with excellent results. The drag pressures I have been putting on them have in some cases, been redlining the Certates.
    What is required is a 50 to 70 turn Bimini, and for that purpose I have been using the PAULUS Bimini aid, which gives approx 100% knot strength, then the Egrell wind on's.
    The best I could get from my own self tied Bimini's was 72%, but the little Bimini aid has stepped up the odds considerably.
    The Egrell wind on's are dead simple, no knots required.....except the pre-tied Bimini, which is tied before I leave home.
    More on the Egrell wind on's later, but keep an eye out for them.
    By the way, I pay for the PAULUS Bimini Aid and the Egrell gear, and consider it a honour to test these guys gear and equipment.
    Tim

  7. #22

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    Tim, what was the issue with the hand tied biminis - too loose? Or are the Egrell wind-ons like a sleeve set-up?

  8. #23

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    If you are having any issues with the improved albright, try a small bit of super glue.

    Don't pull it right up onto the end of the mono loop, leave it a bit stretched out and then superglue. This not only stops the braid from slipping over the end of the mono loop but because you don't tighten and bunch it up as much, it's a slimmer knot than if you tighten it right up. You can then trim the tag end of your mono almost right up to the knot because the braid isn't going to slip and even if it did, it would only slip forward, not back to the tag end.

    Previous to superglueing my knots, i used to have the proble mwhere the braid would slip over the end of the mono loop, something you may see when tightening your current improved albrights. I buy the superglue in the little bottle with the brush in it, it's much easier to apply with the brush and the whole bottle lasts longer than a tube (which never seem to seal properly).

    hope this helps,

    Richard

    ps. don't know about you, but i often get a scenario where i have to retie knots while out fishing (eg. worn leader, snags, etc). I would hate to have to try and do a FG knot out in the boat when you either got 100 mozzies around you or a bit of wind/rain

  9. #24

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim_N View Post
    I have been trialling some soon to be released Egrell wind on leaders with excellent results.... By the way, I pay for...the Egrell gear, and consider it a honour to test these guys gear and equipment.
    Tim
    Thats a tough call for Eric to be charging you to do field tests on unproven gear. I don't know if I would have the faith to turn over my hard earned to test someones prototype products
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  10. #25

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    Quote Originally Posted by ffejsmada View Post
    For me, it's the Slim Beauty all the way. No double, easy to tie, a very slim tapered knot, tapered the right way, and strong.


    Cheers.
    I was shown the slim beauty the other day by someone who swears by it & I must say I was impressed by how easy it is to tie. I'll be giving this one a go for a while & hopefully it'll solve my recent problems.

    Thanks again to all that replied, it's obviously a subject dear to everyones heart.

    bassfan

  11. #26

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    The problem with the hand tied Bimini twists is due to the nature of braid. You can easily damage the line when applying rasping type pressure and running the line back down itself as well as applying pressure from this same process if you have the line at an angle etc.

    Horse, these wind on's are not new, have used them before as have guys like FrankOO, but to get an independent view, pictures and run them in a "real world" environment, I gladly accepted the challenge. Eric has been making them for quite some time, but only for his use.
    They are so good, it had been suggested to him that he should market them by many people, but before that can go ahead, it is always nice to send some out to boof heads like me and see if I can bugger them up, or get a failure or maybe even suggest an improvement.
    So they are definately not unproven or even prototypes.
    As a small business owner myself, I like to encourage people from the outside to test my gear if I have a new produst ready to market. These people are usually regular customers who I know well and know will give the gear a good work out. They generally pay for the gear because they also know that I'm not a charity, and they are quite happy to do so.
    Normally a hobby is fun but not free.
    I will be doing a post soon on this gear, but will be getting some more info and pics. Only too happy to do it for Eric and this is something that spins my wheels so why not do it.
    Tim

  12. #27

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    Hi Dave_H,
    The Egrell wind on's use a single loop connection. I will post some pics soon in a new thread.
    Tim

  13. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim_N View Post
    I have been trialling some soon to be released Egrell wind on leaders with excellent results. The drag pressures I have been putting on them have in some cases, been redlining the Certates.
    What is required is a 50 to 70 turn Bimini, and for that purpose I have been using the PAULUS Bimini aid, which gives approx 100% knot strength, then the Egrell wind on's.
    Tim

    Hey Tim, what is this bimini aid you mention look like? I've googled for a similar device before & haven't seen anything worth buying when I can just use my foot.

  14. #29

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    Take a look at the Paulus site.
    http://www.pcwi.com.au/fishing/index.htm
    There is miles of really good info here, especially for guys like me who are a bit particular about lines, knots, diameters, breaking strains etc.
    I think there might even be a You Tube thingy on there so you can see it in action. If you're keen on keeping 100% or close to, this is a big help.
    I hope this helps,
    Tim

  15. #30

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    For several years when fishing for black bass & barra in PNG I always went back to the albright. I found it to be consistently reliable when using 50-60lb leader to 20kg braid.

    Its here in the Hints & Tips animated knot section BUT do around TWENTY WRAPS up and another twenty back down.

    Tie the knot with patience and keep everything as close & snug & tidy as you can.
    I can't remember that knot failing me even once.
    "...a voice in my head keeps telling me to go fishing..."

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